Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 21:55 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Any idea what I need to do to restore original behavior? Here's a simple solution: Create a new user for them to use, instead of your account. That way they get default settings. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.

Re: Graphical file search tool

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Cox
> It's definitely not gone. In Nautilus for GNOME 3.x, you can select > "Search for Files..." from the "Go" main menu; or you can simply press > Ctrl+F, if you (as I do) prefer keyboard shortcuts. It should be '/' but otherwise it is indeed there. And with gnome-tweak-tool you can put Nautilus b

Re: zsh: bad option, bash works

2011-12-20 Thread Rich Boyce
On 20/12/11 03:54, Phil Pennock wrote: On 2011-12-20 at 11:46 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: Better, maybe, would be a "help" builtin for bash, zsh etc that documented builtins and other topics, and offered to divert to "man" as well (or on no hit). Hmm. I see "bash" has a help comment. Zsh does

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers

2011-12-20 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 12/20/2011 12:41 AM, Ian Malone wrote: On 20 December 2011 00:32, Kevin Martin wrote: So after working on this all afternoon with Lawrence, it turned out that we needed to fall back to the 280.13 version of the nVidia akmod from F15 to get it to work. With the 290.10 and the 285.05.09

Re: [RESOLVED] Re: Recovering Journal...

2011-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 21:35 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: > The people running this blog knew how I write before they cordially > invited me into this thread. Sorry for shouting, but THIS IS NOT A BLOG!!! And what do you mean "the people who invited you"? If some random list user invited you, they ha

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers

2011-12-20 Thread Kevin Martin
On 12/19/2011 08:01 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 19 December 2011 18:32:56 Kevin Martin wrote: >>> From the driver page on the nVidia website for your laptop video card: >>> Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver >>> Version: 290.10 >> So after working on this all afternoon with Lawrenc

F16 Boot Very Slow?

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Heck
With a fresh install of F16, I'm getting a very slow boot process. Things proceed fine, and then it just sits there for a while. The graphical screen slowly progresses, but the text screen doesn't show any new processes, etc. Presumably, it's waiting for something. Any idea what it might be,

Re: F16 Boot Very Slow?

2011-12-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > > With a fresh install of F16, I'm getting a very slow boot process. Things > proceed fine, and then it just sits there for a while. The graphical screen > slowly progresses, but the text screen doesn't show any new processes, etc. > Presumabl

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers

2011-12-20 Thread Kevin Martin
kernel, until the new driver arrives. Best, :-) Marko > Darn, I missed the bugreport on downgrading to the 280 version, that would > have made the time spent *hours* less. In any case, he's > working now and we discussed going forward when a new driver comes out. > While I tend to agree wi

Re: F16 Boot Very Slow?

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/20/2011 10:45 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Richard Heck wrote: With a fresh install of F16, I'm getting a very slow boot process. Things proceed fine, and then it just sits there for a while. The graphical screen slowly progresses, but the text screen doe

Can't Execute Files on NFS Mount

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Heck
I have my home directory on an NFS mount, with ~/bin containing executable files. With F16, I can't execute these files...but only when the share is mounted at boot time. If I unmount it and mount it manually, then it is fine. My /etc/fstab reads: 192.168.1.1:/home/rgheck/files/ /ho

Re: F16 Boot Very Slow?

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/20/2011 10:45 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Richard Heck wrote: With a fresh install of F16, I'm getting a very slow boot process. Things proceed fine, and then it just sits there for a while. The graphical screen slowly progresses, but the text screen doe

Re: What determines mdraid minor device numbers

2011-12-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 15:30:32 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > At bootup, the new array gets automounted on /dev/md127 for some > reason. Everything's fine, I see no issues except for the unexpected > device minor number. > > Anyone care to enlighten me, how mdraid minor numbers get handed

Stopping VirtualBox sessions

2011-12-20 Thread Claude Jones
I keep VirtualBox running as a different user, cjremote, on my office Fedora 16 machine. I have a Windows 7 virtual machine constantly running in VirtualBox which I use for some very specific work related tasks When I am at the office, I want to able to shut down that virtual Windows machine so

Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
Hello community, This has been a great news for me that I am going switch to Linux from Windows XP, I am bored using it, many viruses and also high cost to maintain. Apart from it, I came to know that there are many linux and more specifically distributions. So really speaking, I am a bit confused

Mirror scripts

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Chambers
Due to some HD issues on my data drive, I lost all my scripts and such. Anyone have/use a simple little rsync script to mirror that can use to run off crontab? This script will be edited for various mirrors. It will run anywhere from every 4-6 hours and once a day as well. Am googling as well bu

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 22:48:48 +0530, "Rameshwar Kr. Sharma" wrote: > > Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just > wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and > for rest of the distributions more -- I would really not look for I > would be c

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 12/20/2011 06:18 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and for rest of the distributions more -- I would really not look for I would be confused more. Why is it negati

Re: Mirror scripts

2011-12-20 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > Due to some HD issues on my data drive, I lost all my scripts and such. > Anyone have/use a simple little rsync script to mirror that can use to > run off crontab?  This script will be edited for various mirrors.  It > will run anywhere from

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > Hello community, > > This has been a great news for me that I am going switch to Linux from > Windows XP, > opensuse comes in mind, then some other distribution... Fedora is no

Re: Mirror scripts

2011-12-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:30:39 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Due to some HD issues on my data drive, I lost all my scripts and such. > Anyone have/use a simple little rsync script to mirror that can use to > run off crontab? This script will be edited for various mirrors. It > will run anywh

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Notably Fedora has some features that may make it not suitable for everyone. > Fedora versions are only supported for 13 months, so you will be looking > at doing upgrades once (or twice if you don't want to skip releases) a > year. > Fe

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: >> Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just >> wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and >> for rest of the distributions more --  I would really not look for I >> would be confused more

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, charles zeitler wrote: > Do what thou wilt > shall  be the whole  of the Law. Yeah correct but since I was confused and new, so suggestions put a great deal of work for me, after all community members are so much experienced! -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, charles zeitler wrote: > Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft... I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden (may be) meaning. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

emesene license change

2011-12-20 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
emesene license changed. -License:GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ +License:GPLv3 -- Itamar Reis Peixoto msn, google talk: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br +55 11 4063 5033 (FIXO SP) +55 34 9158 9329 (TIM) +55 34 8806 3989 (OI) +55 34 3221 8599 (FIXO MG) -- users mailing list users@list

RE: Stopping VirtualBox sessions

2011-12-20 Thread Alan J. Gagne
The trouble is, if i login to my remote user desktop, cjremote, here at work and open VirtualBox, I can see the running virtual machine in the VirtualBox management interface but I can't show it or connect to it, and, if I try to pause it, I get an "access denied" message Is there some way to do t

Re: emesene license change

2011-12-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/20/2011 11:32 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > emesene license changed. > > > -License:GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ > +License:GPLv3 You probably wanted to send this to devel list instead Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 2:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 21:55 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Any idea what I need to do to restore original behavior? Here's a simple solution: Create a new user for them to use, instead of your account. That way they get default settings. Tim: Thanks for t

Re: F16 Boot Very Slow?

2011-12-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/20/2011 07:36 AM, Richard Heck wrote: With a fresh install of F16, I'm getting a very slow boot process. Things proceed fine, and then it just sits there for a while. The graphical screen slowly progresses, but the text screen doesn't show any new processes, etc. Presumably, it's waiting fo

Re: Can't Execute Files on NFS Mount

2011-12-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/20/2011 07:55 AM, Richard Heck wrote: 192.168.1.1:/home/rgheck/files/ /home/rgheck/files nfs auto,user,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0 Try replacing your list of options with auto,user,umask= because I've never had any of the options do what I want when I list them, but

Re: Stopping VirtualBox sessions

2011-12-20 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/20/2011 1:05 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote: > The trouble is, if i login to my remote user desktop, cjremote, here at > work and open VirtualBox, I can see the running virtual machine in the > VirtualBox management interface but I can't show it or connect to it, > and, if I try to pause it, I get

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/20/2011 05:18 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: <> the fedora vs suse vs ubuntu troll is back. new name. same game. i tried suse and gave it up. i tried ubuntu and gave it up. i am red hat/fedora/sl oriented because i do not mind putting out effort to administer them to keep them running.

Sponsorship request to fedora packager group

2011-12-20 Thread Andrea Stagi
Hi all, I'm Andrea Stagi, I work as a developer and in my spare time I work as an open source developer mostly involved in Turpial and Emesene ( https://github.com/4ndreast4gi ). I would like to find someone that would sponsor me, I would like to maintain the Emesene package. I did an unofficial p

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
> Well said, but I just wanted to learn the Linux from the > basics -> > right from the first step. So if Fedora really gives all > such issues, > should I go to openSUSE? > -- If you want to learn linux, then go and get Slackware! If you want hand holding and flash + codecs get Mint based on U

Re: [389-users] replica="unknown": Unable to acquire replica: error: no such replica

2011-12-20 Thread Jared Carter
Hi Rich, thanks for the reply. Running this on RHEL 5.7. Versions of all the 389 stuff I'm using are: 389-ds-base-1.2.5-1.el5 389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.el5 389-ds-1.1.3-6.el5 389-adminutil-1.1.8-4.el5 389-admin-1.1.10-1.el5 389-admin-console-1.1.4-3.el5 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.4-3.el5 389-console-1.1.3

Where are the Apache httpd cache's & how do I clear them ?

2011-12-20 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi, Where are the default Apache caches on Fedora (11) and how do I clear them ? I found :- htcacheclean but it requires to be told where the cache directory is. Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: Where are the Apache httpd cache's & how do I clear them ?

2011-12-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > Hi, > > Where are the default Apache caches on Fedora (11) and how do I clear > them ? > > I found :- > > htcacheclean > > but it requires to be told where the cache directory is. > > Many thanks in advance, > > Aaron > Google is your friend: "httpd

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.12.2011, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just > wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and > for rest of the distributions more. Do a saerch and locate all the distribution of your interest. Download a li

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:34:00AM -0600, charles zeitler wrote: > Do what thou wilt > shall be the whole of the Law. What is the law? No spill blood. Who makes the rules? Someone else. :D -- Darryl L. Pierce, Sr. Software Engineer @ Red Hat, Inc. Delivering value year after year. Red Hat

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/20/2011 11:45 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:34:00AM -0600, charles zeitler wrote: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. What is the law? No spill blood. Who makes the rules? Someone else. :D I'll tell you what, people, how about if we stop this

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 11:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/20/2011 11:45 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:34:00AM -0600, charles zeitler wrote: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. What is the law? No spill blood. Who makes the rules? Someone else. :D I'll tell yo

OT: Crowley was Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread stan
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:45:54 -0500 "Darryl L. Pierce" wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:34:00AM -0600, charles zeitler wrote: > > Do what thou wilt > > shall be the whole of the Law. > > What is the law? > No spill blood. > Who makes the rules? > Someone else. > :D I think the full quote is

Dooble Web Browser release for Fedora

2011-12-20 Thread thomasasta
-- Forwarded message -- Subject: Dooble Web Browser 1.26 - Christmas Release: with Chat Addon support, plus Linux and Flash installers Dooble 1.26 Web Browser Christmas Release with Addons-Support, Linux-Packages and X11-Flash Installers (Deb+RPM). Dooble Web Browser 1.26 has been

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/20/2011 12:07 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: As far as I am concerned, you are not wrong. Darryl's post is not appropriate for this list Thank you, Paul. I doubt, however, that Darryl meant to take things that far off-topic or realized what might happen. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > While prepping my machine to give to repair folk, I was cleaning things up > and suddenly, on a fresh login, the screen is displaying the contents of > home as opposed to home's Desktop folder. I know what happened ... I > accidentally d

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread stan
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:07:34 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > As far as I am concerned, you are not wrong. > Darryl's post is not appropriate for this list I think the first inappropriate post belongs to Mr. Zeitler. Putting his quote at the start of every message is equivalent to: Every Chris

Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 1:05 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: IIRC you can run "gconf-editor" and look in the "nautilus" folder under "apps" and there's a setting for the path of the folder that is displayed on the desktop. If it's not there, it's somewhere to be found in gconf-editor. Unfortunately, I don

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:08:53 -0700 stan wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:07:34 -0800 > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > As far as I am concerned, you are not wrong. > > Darryl's post is not appropriate for this list > > I think the first inappropriate post belongs to Mr. Zeitler. Putting > his q

Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > T.C.: > > Thanks. I dug into it and found Apps->Nautilus->Desktop->Preferences and a > tick box about Desktop_Is_Home_Dir which looks exactly like what I need to > correct given its description and the problem I am seeing. Unfortunately,

[SOLVED:] Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 1:32 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: This is a long shot, but take a look at "~/.config/user-dirs.dirs". Is XDG_DESKTOP_DIR set to "$HOME/Desktop" as it should be? -T.C. T.C.: Sometimes long shots are the best and, in this case, that was it. It was $HOME and, when I changed to $

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > Or you could just treat it as that persons little .sig quirk of their > own, just like all the others people have > > Alan > --- > Mae fy hofrenfad i yn llawn llysywod > -- Are you suggesting, "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 1:59 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Are you suggesting, "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send?" We could do worse. +1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: mouse and keyboard locking up [Solved - card reader was culprit]

2011-12-20 Thread Claude Jones
No one responded on this, but, in case someone else has similar problems. The issue was caused by a card reader with three or four different slots in it for various sized cards, plus a USB port. Unplugging if from the machine has cured the problem. On 12/16/2011 03:28 PM, Claude Jones wrote:

Re: [SOLVED:] Re: gnome 2.3 desktop shows home/me not home/me/Desktop

2011-12-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > T.C.: > > Sometimes long shots are the best and, in this case, that was it. It was > $HOME and, when I changed to $HOME/Desktop, I was back in business. Many > thanks !!! Excellent! > I am thinking there may be a bug here as I couldn't

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/20 13:29, Alan Cox wrote: Mae fy hofrenfad i yn llawn llysywod Your hovercraft is too full of eels? (Thank Google for that humor.) {^_-} -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

[OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/20/2011 09:08 PM, stan wrote: <> > I think the first inappropriate post belongs to Mr. Zeitler. Putting > his quote at the start of every message is equivalent to: -=- 2 things that make this country so great are; freedom of speech. freedom of religious belief. are you against our

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, charles zeitler wrote: > >> Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft... > > I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden

Re: VirtualBox installation question.

2011-12-20 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Michael Cronenworth, You are right. Problem solved. It was a Hardware problem. I changed the Hard Drive, restored the back-up and all is working right. Sorry for the noise. Em 16-12-2011 17:52, Michael Cronenworth escreveu: > Erik P. Olsen wrote: >> Is it safe to remove the current package and

Re: VirtualBox installation question.

2011-12-20 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Marko Vajinovic, Problem solved. It was a Hardware problem. I changed the Hard Drive, restored the back-up and all is working right. Sorry for the noise. Em 16-12-2011 19:48, Marko Vojinovic escreveu: > On Friday 16 December 2011 23:54:10 Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 16.12.2011 23:50, schrieb Erik

Re: VirtualBox installation question.

2011-12-20 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Reindl Harald, Problem solved. It was a Hardware problem. I changed the Hard Drive, restored the back-up and all is working right. Sorry for the noise. Em 17-12-2011 16:08, Reindl Harald escreveu: > > Am 17.12.2011 19:11, schrieb Lucélio Gomes de Freitas: >> Reindl Harald, >> >> I did exactly th

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > I think the first inappropriate post belongs to Mr. > Zeitler.  Putting > > his quote at the start of every message is equivalent > to: > -=- > > 2 things that make this country so great are; > >   freedom of speech. > >   freedom of religious belief. > > > are you against our constitution

Re: Where are the Apache httpd cache's & how do I clear them ?

2011-12-20 Thread Aaron Gray
On 20 December 2011 19:25, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > ** > On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > Hi, > > Where are the default Apache caches on Fedora (11) and how do I clear > them ? > > I found :- > > htcacheclean > > but it requires to be told where the cache directory is. > >

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 21:29 +, Alan Cox wrote: > > Of course, such messages could be interpreted as eyeballs paying for > > offered help; a personalized Google business model - I give you help > > for free, you give me your attention on my message. > > Or you could just treat it as that person

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/20/2011 05:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I took a day off from looking at computers and came back to look at the > info I had gotten when I said I was abandoning the attempt. I also tried > g4l to see if that worked. <> making backups is one of the most crucial parts of maintaining a s

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 23:03 +, g wrote: > 2 things that make this country so great are; Which country would that be? (rhetorical question of course). There are lots of list members from lots of different countries. Don't assume we're all from the same place. poc -- users mailing list users@

Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-20 Thread Linda McLeod
Sure would be nice if I could bring up "installed" in Yumex, and copy the list.. then paste that list into Yumex install for when I'm rebuilding a freshly formatted hd, to eliminate the lengthy search in Yumex in locating my many preferred packages.. This modification evolution could save users h

fedora 16 koji broken

2011-12-20 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
fedora 16 koji broken http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3596971 DEBUG util.py:307: Executing command: ['/usr/bin/yum', '--installroot', '/var/lib/mock/f16-build-1203861-192685/root/', 'groupinstall', 'srpm-build'] DEBUG util.py:257: Error: Package: nss-3.13.1-9.fc16.i686 (buil

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
edited and inline-comments On 12/20/2011 4:36 PM, g wrote: On 12/20/2011 05:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: making backups is one of the most crucial parts of maintaining a system. it is also one of the most important bits of learning that we all go thru. as a suggestion, get a pack of dvd r-w

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/20/2011 04:39 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: Sure would be nice if I could bring up "installed" in Yumex, and copy the list.. then paste that list into Yumex install for when I'm rebuilding a freshly formatted hd, to eliminate the lengthy search in Yumex in locating my many preferred packages..

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 16:21 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > I think the first inappropriate post belongs to Mr. > > Zeitler. Putting > > > his quote at the start of every message is equivalent > > to: > > -=- > > > > 2 things that make this country so great are; > > > > freedom of speech.

dbus-daemon error message persisting

2011-12-20 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm still getting this warning (repeated many times) under Fedora-16/KDE updated (kernel 3.1.5-6.fc16.i686.PAE) in /var/log/messages: -- Dec 21 00:28:38 blanche dbus-daemon[876]: ** (upowerd:1269): WARNING **: Property get or set does not have an interface string

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 18:31 +, g wrote: > i am red hat/fedora/sl oriented because i do not mind putting out > effort to administer them to keep them running. ??? > > fedora is truly not for someone who is oos minded. possibly - but just out of curiosity, do you have any install

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 12:21 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: <> >> are you against our constitution? > Seems the government is :( Patriot Act! Bin Laden is apparently dead, US > Navy Seals ran > # rm -rf /bin/laden -=- the "USA PATRIOT Act" is not against our constitution. it *is* against _terrorism_. >

Dovecot problem

2011-12-20 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm trying to setup dovecot on a new server, to replace the server I have been using which is having some hardware problems. The new server is running CentOS-6.1 ; the current server is running CentOS-5.7. Dovecot runs fine on the current server, but on the new server when I get -

Re: dbus-daemon error message persisting

2011-12-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I'm still getting this warning (repeated many times) under Fedora-16/KDE > updated (kernel 3.1.5-6.fc16.i686.PAE) in /var/log/messages: > -- > Dec 21 00:28:38 blanche dbus-daemon[876]: ** (upowerd:1269): WAR

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 01:17 +, g wrote: > On 12/21/2011 12:21 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > <> > > >> are you against our constitution? > > > Seems the government is :( Patriot Act! Bin Laden is apparently dead, US > > Navy Seals ran > > # rm -rf /bin/laden > -=- > > the "USA PATRIOT Act"

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 12:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > edited and inline-comments > > On 12/20/2011 4:36 PM, g wrote: >> On 12/20/2011 05:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> making backups is one of the most crucial parts of maintaining a system. >> it is also one of the most important bits of learn

Re: Dovecot problem

2011-12-20 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 01:35 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to setup dovecot on a new server, > to replace the server I have been using > which is having some hardware problems. > > The new server is running CentOS-6.1 ; > the current server is running CentOS-5.7. > > Dovecot runs fine

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 12:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > Which country would that be? (rhetorical question of course). There are > lots of list members from lots of different countries. Don't assume > we're all from the same place. -=- true. but if any are in wonder, they can always have a look at

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 01:53 +, g wrote: > On 12/21/2011 12:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > <> > > > Which country would that be? (rhetorical question of course). There are > > lots of list members from lots of different countries. Don't assume > > we're all from the same place. > -=- > >

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[inline] On 12/20/2011 5:47 PM, g wrote: which image? if the one on usb, because you can not boot usb with bios you have, you need to put thoughts elsewhere. [see 'bios' below] I am trusting from what I read that I might not have a bootable image, but I have an image of the hardrive sans boo

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 01:05 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 18:31 +, g wrote: > >> i am red hat/fedora/sl oriented because i do not mind putting out >> effort to administer them to keep them running. > > ??? > -=- what '???' ? >> fedora is truly not for someone who is oos mi

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 03:44 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: <> > I am trusting from what I read that I might not have a bootable image, > but I have an image of the hardrive sans boot stuff that I can restore > back to the hardrive. -=- to clarify word 'image'. to me, an 'image' is one complete file, vie

succeeding gracelessly pre-upgrading F14 to F15

2011-12-20 Thread Joel Rees
(As opposed to failing gracefully, I suppose.) Anyone besides me take 44+ hours doing a preupgrade from F14 to F15? (Now I'm checking for .rpmsaves and .rpmnews and orphans and such. Still not to the point I want to let my daughter go hunting for interesting videos on youtube.) -- users mailing

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 9:29 PM, g wrote: to clarify word 'image'. to me, an 'image' is one complete file, viewable with a hex editor. same word usage file/s backup are file/s viewable with hex editor or text editor, depending on type of file/s. same word usage it appears you do have some good

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 03:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > Your email address says absolutely nothing about your nationality, -=- my nationality is American, living United States of America. in respect that Canadians are Americans living in Canada. just as Mexicans are Americans living in Mexico. i

login scrolling and nologin users showing in upgraded F15 (Re: succeeding gracelessly pre-upgrading F14 to F15)

2011-12-20 Thread Joel Rees
(Woops. I forgot my real questions. First few, anyway.) These questions might be answered by a pointer to the configuration file for the graphical (X11) login program. I have a number of users that I have added for running firefox as a non-login capable user. For instance, if a user were "suzan",

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:01 AM, g wrote: > On 12/20/2011 05:18 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > <> > > the fedora vs suse vs ubuntu troll is back. new name. same game. > > > i tried suse and gave it up. i tried ubuntu and gave it up. > > i am red hat/fedora/sl oriented because i do not mind pu

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:01 AM, g wrote: > On 12/20/2011 05:18 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > <> > > the fedora vs suse vs ubuntu troll is back. new name. same game. > > > i tried suse and gave it up. i tried ubuntu and gave it up. > > i am red hat/fedora/sl oriented because i do not mind pu

Re: [ABANDONING:] Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-20 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 06:01 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: <> > At this point, I am going to suggest holding off on further posts until -=- works for me. > Best of the holidays to you. -=- same to you and yours. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain text" only. "html text" are deleted*

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Craig White wrote: >> fedora is truly not for someone who is oos minded. > possibly - but just out of curiosity, do you have any installed from or > have enabled rpmfusion-nonfree repo? >> suse/ubuntu are for simple oos minded users. > I think he asked about op

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > If you want to learn linux, then go and get Slackware! > If you want hand holding and flash + codecs get Mint based on Ubuntu, If you > want 2 learn Fedora then stay and use it.  If you want to use OpenSUSE you > can do it too. > If y

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:53 AM, charles zeitler wrote: >>> Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft... >> I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden (may be) meaning. > Opensuses' 'agreement' with Microsoft > http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-s

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, g wrote: > i have never understood why Americans are just Americans with out > distinction as to what part. > my ancestry is Greek and Scotch-Irish. I guess these are technical lists and anything you say for Americans, this is not the right place, I assume you

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 10:54 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.html necessarily imposes limitations (theoretical if not actual) on its development ('intellectual property concerns') Oh I see, this is r

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Until you are familiar enough with any version of Linux, this "issue" is > academic as you can't determine whether it applies to you or not. > You need to just pick a distro, dive in, swim around, and then take another > look at what y

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/20/2011 10:58 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, g wrote: i have never understood why Americans are just Americans with out distinction as to what part. my ancestry is Greek and Scotch-Irish. I guess these are technical lists and anything you say for Ameri

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > You need to just pick a distro, dive in, swim around, and then take another > look at what you should be using. http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.html Seeing this,

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-20 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Be careful on your judgments ... this list sometimes goes off-topic without > declaring it and it is best to give the benefit of the doubt until a > one-on-one offends. I wish the list would stay on focus, but I also wish > people would

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