Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Roger
They've already lost this one. I will NOT do business with Microsoft. Just before the 6:30 commercial news tonight there was a report, I think SBS or ABC, on the Microsoft/Skype purchase and it was said among other things that Microsoft would be charging each user $2-$3 for using Skype And that

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I think there are serious blocking going on from microsoft parties - they have created Attachmate (consists from Apple, Oracle, MS, and few others such sized companies), and grabbed Novell with Suse, they have working with Nokia, and also eaten for breakfast Sun too. If anybody tries to make linux

F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-11 Thread Neil Bird
I did a belated update of my Fedora 14 box last night, which included a new kernel (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE, previous was 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE). However, upon trying to boot, it slept for a little bit, then said something like: Fatal: no boot partition found, sleeping forever

Re: Generating ifcfg-eth0 from scratch

2011-05-11 Thread JB
Alex gmail.com> writes: > ... > I understand the format, and could create it if necessary, but I'm > specifically interested in knowing how it determines the UUID field? > Is that calculated from lspci in some way perhaps? > ... In case you use NM: http://www.mail-archive.com/networkmanager-lis

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 22:54 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Ok, I just lost enthusiasm in further use of skype. Being closed source was > bad enough already, but I tolerated it due to its good-enough quality, What constitutes "good enough," though? I've yet to find any VOIP that I'm happy with.

Re: wvdial does not disconnect after ctrl-c

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 12:18 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > Most people do not use CNTRL-C to kill this process. Usually it is > started to run in the background and then killed using the command you > just stated. I seem to recall doing something *like* "ifup ppp" and "ifdown ppp", to connect and

yum problems

2011-05-11 Thread Walter Cazzola
Dear Fedora Users, I'm just puzzled from an error I get from yum: >yum update Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, downloadonly, fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * fedora: mirror.switch.ch * jpackage-generic: mirror.ibcp.fr

Re: yum problems

2011-05-11 Thread Chris Smart
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Walter Cazzola wrote: > Dear Fedora Users, > I'm just puzzled from an error I get from yum: > What if you clean out yum first? yum clean all -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Alan Cox
Microsoft is an advertising company so it'll be able to make very good use of that data to manage and target adverts better. It's not really down to "FOSS alternatives". There are *standards* for voice over IP. I guess Skype fits MS well in that its a proprietary non-standard 8) Alan -- users ma

Re: [Fedora] Re: yum problems

2011-05-11 Thread Walter Cazzola
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Chris Smart wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Walter Cazzola wrote: >> I'm just puzzled from an error I get from yum: > What if you clean out yum first? > yum clean all it has worked thanks a lot Walter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 12:49 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Microsoft is an advertising company so it'll be able to make very good > use of that data to manage and target adverts better. > > It's not really down to "FOSS alternatives". There are *standards* for > voice over IP. I guess Skype fits MS well

Re: yum problems

2011-05-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:35 +1000, Chris Smart wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Walter Cazzola wrote: > > Dear Fedora Users, > > I'm just puzzled from an error I get from yum: > > > > What if you clean out yum first? > yum clean all Again with the "clean all". If the problem is due to a

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 07:49 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > Microsoft is an advertising company so it'll be able to make very good > use of that data to manage and target adverts better. > > It's not really down to "FOSS alternatives". There are *standards* for > voice over IP. I guess Skype fits MS well in that it

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 08:58 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > $8.5 BB is a pretty serious premium for a company with zero revenue > (ever) which sold 2 times previously - first to ebay for $2.5 BB and > after that something < 1 BB ... still no revenue but a decent enough brand. > s/revenue/earnings/g < pr

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 07:49:12 AM Alan Cox wrote: > It's not really down to "FOSS alternatives". There are *standards* for > voice over IP. And thanks to NAT-hatred in the standards process, most of those require finagling firewall forwarding fritters..er... rules; H.323 for instance seems

Re: Generating ifcfg-eth0 from scratch

2011-05-11 Thread JB
The results of scan for UUID: # grep -ir uuid /etc/init.d/ /etc/init.d/messagebus:/bin/dbus-uuidgen --ensure The above relates to machine-id. # grep -ir uuid /etc/sysconfig/ /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup:if [ "$USE_NM" = "true" -a -n "$UUID" ]; then /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 01:36, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > I think there are serious blocking going on from microsoft parties - > they have created Attachmate (consists from Apple, Oracle, MS, and few > others such sized companies), and grabbed Novell with Suse, they have > working with Nokia, and also eaten for br

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 05:58, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/11/2011 07:49 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Microsoft is an advertising company so it'll be able to make very good >> use of that data to manage and target adverts better. >> >> It's not really down to "FOSS alternatives". There are *standards* for >> voic

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 10:58 AM, JD wrote: > I have used Google voice/talk. > It is too clumsy, lacks the features of skype. Curious what features skype has that are missing ? I think the user search feature is missing ... (not sure that is good or bad .. depends on your privacy views I suppose?) Any

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 11:15 AM, JD wrote: I dont use it much but my experience seems quite different to yours .. > audio/video device selection on my phone thats a non-issue - I dont have a linux box with multiple devices so I have not seen this. > Ability to call realworld phone numbers Defini

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread James McKenzie
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/11/2011 10:58 AM, JD wrote: >> I have used Google voice/talk. >> It is too clumsy, lacks the features of skype. > >  Curious what features skype has that are missing ? > >  I think the user search feature is missing ... (not sure that

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/11/2011 11:30 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > >> restricting the use of the video to people on your contacts list...' >have not looked .. > > Seems audio/video are both restricted to contact list by default with google - not sure you actually do anything else :-) Was just curi

Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Gray
I now have DHCP working fine and a client attached, but am having problems adding a gateway. I have used WebMin to attempt to do it, adding a Static route and setting the "config as Router" option. This has added a file :- $ cat route-eth1 ADDRESS0=192.168.1.0 GATEWAY0=192.168.0.1 NETMASK0=255.2

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 08:32 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > Here is some serious food for thought (and no this is not to induce a > flame war, but for those who have a problem with companies 'making > money') There's a big difference between making money, and being an ass about it. Though /some/ c

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 10:27 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > And thanks to NAT-hatred in the standards process, most of those > require finagling firewall forwarding fritters..er... rules Well, to be fair, *NAT* is an obstacle, in the real meaning of the word. It does make it difficult to do anything th

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:52 -0700, JD wrote: > With the kind of money they have, they can buy all > three branches of the government :) Ah, so *that's* what's wrong with government. It's all branches, and only branches. No roots, no trunk, no flowers, no fruit. Just sticks... -- [tim@localho

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 05:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Actually there are, notably SIP. However one is reminded of Andy > Tanenbaum's well-known remark: "The good thing about standards is that > if you don't like one of them, you can just use a different one". And, as somebody else (I don't know who

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:13 +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: > I now have DHCP working fine and a client attached, but am having > problems adding a gateway. > > I have used WebMin to attempt to do it, adding a Static route and > setting the "config as Router" option. > > This has added a file :- > > $

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 08:32 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > There iS No Such Thing As A Free Lunch (TSNTAAFL). And that is Yet Another Way to mangle a perfectly good acronym: There *Ain't* No Such Thing As A Free Lunch (TANSTAAFL). Bob Heinlein knew what he was doing; second-guessing him just messes things

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 09:13 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > but I cannot get the remote computer to ping to 192.168.0.1 Is the remote computer on another LAN or on a different subnet on the same one? In the former case, of course, you're trying to ping a machine on a non-routable IP address and Rocket J. Squir

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Gray
On 11 May 2011 18:01, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:13 +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: >> I now have DHCP working fine and a client attached, but am having >> problems adding a gateway. >> >> I have used WebMin to attempt to do it, adding a Static route and >> setting the "config as Router" optio

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 09:22, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 08:32 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> Here is some serious food for thought (and no this is not to induce a >> flame war, but for those who have a problem with companies 'making >> money') > There's a big difference between making money, and bei

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 09:33, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:52 -0700, JD wrote: >> With the kind of money they have, they can buy all >> three branches of the government :) > Ah, so *that's* what's wrong with government. It's all branches, and > only branches. No roots, no trunk, no flowers, no frui

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread James McKenzie
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/11/2011 08:32 AM, James McKenzie wrote: >> There iS No Such Thing As A Free Lunch (TSNTAAFL). > > And that is Yet Another Way to mangle a perfectly good acronym: There > *Ain't* No Such Thing As A Free Lunch (TANSTAAFL).  Bob Heinlein knew

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread James McKenzie
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM, JD wrote: > On 05/11/11 09:33, Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:52 -0700, JD wrote: >>> With the kind of money they have, they can buy all >>> three branches of the government :) >> Ah, so *that's* what's wrong with government.  It's all branches, and >> onl

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread James McKenzie
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 08:32 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> Would any of us go to a major computer manufacturing company and >> DEMAND the same thing that we DEMAND of software?  That is:  Give me >> your latest/greatest for free? > > Well, I wish more

Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Alain Spineux
Hello I have a file, that is an index, it is open all the time by the application, but sometime the access are slow because the file was moved out of the cache. How can I keep it in memory all the time ? I can read it at regular interval, but this is a little over kill ? Any idea thanks. -- A

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 10:57 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > My apologies to Mr. Heinlein. And yes, he was very, very correct. > Living that nightmare everyday. I only met the man once, myself, but we did have mutual friends. (See http://www.jerrypournelle.com for an example.) -- users mailing list users@l

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 11:05 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > There are only two > standards that have existed over the years: ISA (created by IBM) and > the connectors that are in use. Ha, ha, ha. It is to laugh. Clearly you don't remember "the connector conspiracy." For those of you lucky enough not to g

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 11:19 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: > How can I keep it in memory all the time ? > I can read it at regular interval, but this is a little over kill ? Is there a reason that you don't do the obvious: read it into an array, use it and then if needed write it out again when the program exi

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread JB
Alain Spineux gmail.com> writes: > ... $ man shm_overview $ man mmap etc JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guideli

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:04 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/11/2011 10:58 AM, JD wrote: > > I have used Google voice/talk. > > It is too clumsy, lacks the features of skype. > > Curious what features skype has that are missing ? > > I think the user search feature is missing ... (not su

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 11:19, Alain Spineux wrote: > Hello I have a file, that is an index, it is open all the time by the > application, > but sometime the access are slow because the file was moved out of the cache. > > How can I keep it in memory all the time ? > I can read it at regular interval, but this

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/11/2011 07:19 PM, Alain Spineux wrote: > Hello I have a file, that is an index, it is open all the time by the > application, > but sometime the access are slow because the file was moved out of the cache. > > How can I keep it in memory all the time ? > I can read it at regular interval, bu

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:31 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > "the connector conspiracy." For those of you lucky enough not to go > back that far, there was a time when every company had its own > proprietary connector and you couldn't connect one company's > peripheral to any other company's computer with

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/11/2011 07:47 PM, JD wrote: > On 05/11/11 11:19, Alain Spineux wrote: >> Hello I have a file, that is an index, it is open all the time by the >> application, >> but sometime the access are slow because the file was moved out of the cache. >> >> How can I keep it in memory all the time ? >> I

Networking mailing list ?

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Gray
Is there a specialized Linux networking mailing list ? Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gu

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 11:19, Alain Spineux wrote: > Hello I have a file, that is an index, it is open all the time by the > application, > but sometime the access are slow because the file was moved out of the cache. > > How can I keep it in memory all the time ? > I can read it at regular interval, but this

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 11:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Group Video for corporate use. We use it because a) it was cheap and b) > it was easy to install. It still sucks in a number of ways but it gets > the job done. There's one thing, however, that all VOIP services share that makes it a wonderful

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/11/2011 07:58 PM, JD wrote: > mlock(2): > int mlock(const void *addr, size_t len); > can lock user virtual pages to memory (if user has the privileges). > But when it comes to a file, you have no way of knowing the VA of the > pages in > which a file is stored, so you will not be able to cal

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I do, I mind that a lot. At home, I have one telephone on my desk, >> and I can ring anybody on the world with it, no matter what telephone >> network that they're on. James McKenzie: > That is because their are strict standards on how a phone MUST work. > Not so for most of our in-use co

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/11/2011 07:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/11/2011 11:19 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: >> How can I keep it in memory all the time ? >> I can read it at regular interval, but this is a little over kill ? > > Is there a reason that you don't do the obvious: read it into an array, > use it and then

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 20:19 +0200, Alain Spineux wrote: > How can I keep it in memory all the time ? "At any cost..." Is lots more RAM out of the question? Alternatively, I'd expect a programmer to ask whether there's a better way of indexing. My real programming days are long ago, though. Not

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 12 May 2011 04:39:59 +0930 Tim wrote: > The RFC stuff that really works, email, HTTP, etc. I do remember one period about a week long many years ago when Microsoft put out a new version of their usenet news server. Because they were Microsoft, of course, ordinary plebian Message-Id: heade

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 12:19 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > And have it all chucked onto the swap device when we're under memory pressure > and reclaiming user pages that haven't been touched in a while? How does that > help? It's much less likely, especially if you're using that file often enough to worry

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 18:36 +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: > I have an existing network on 192.168.0.1 served by a Netgear Router, > then a Linux box with two ethernet cards. I am trying to get the > gateway working for the 192.168.1 subnet to be able to see the > internet. Really not enough information

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 12:19 PM, Tim wrote: > Tim, off to bubble-sort the junk piling up on my desk... You do know, don't you, that the most succinct way to write a bubble-sort is to use recursion? I think I still have the source code sitting around from the time I did it in C. If you want, let me know

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/11/2011 08:33 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/11/2011 12:19 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> And have it all chucked onto the swap device when we're under memory pressure >> and reclaiming user pages that haven't been touched in a while? How does >> that help? > > It's much less likely, especially

Socksify like program for Fedora?

2011-05-11 Thread lancebaynes87
I need a program that allows me to pass an application through a socks server, even if the program does not have native socks support. Under Ubuntu I can use socksify for this. What can I use under Fedora? Thank you! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: Socksify like program for Fedora?

2011-05-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 May 2011 12:54:45 -0700, L wrote: > I need a program that allows me to pass an application through a socks > server, even if the program does not have native socks support. Under Ubuntu > I can use socksify for this. What can I use under Fedora? > > Thank you! yum search all socksi

Re: Networking mailing list ?

2011-05-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 19:56:21 +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: > Is there a specialized Linux networking mailing list ? http://lartc.org/#mailinglist -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Alain Spineux
Joe: The index is modified very often and need to be flushed at regular interval, I don't want to handle read and write. JB: I already use mmap. JD: I already tried posix_fadvise with POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED, but this is not rock solid, if not used for a long time, data are not in the cache anymore. Br

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread JB
Aaron Gray gmail.com> writes: > ... Spend some time with it: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking Paragraph 4,5, and in particular 6. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Ok, I just lost enthusiasm in further use of skype. ... > So which one is on the top of the list, in your opinion? I was very unhappy with the news also. I am hoping GNU Free Call comes up with something easy to install and configure soo

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 May 2011 16:32, James McKenzie wrote: > Again, do not take this as anything other than a personal opinion on > why this discussion is a waste of time and effort.  Skype has been > bought and there is nothing out there like it.  Not in the Linux world > nor the Windows world.  People will c

Re: Creating a Gateway

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Gray
On 11 May 2011 21:24, JB wrote: > Aaron Gray gmail.com> writes: > >> ... > > Spend some time with it: > > http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking > > Paragraph 4,5, and in particular 6. Thanks JB ! Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Mike Dwiggins
On 5/11/2011 1:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 11 May 2011 16:32, James McKenzie wrote: > > >> Again, do not take this as anything other than a personal opinion on >> why this discussion is a waste of time and effort. Skype has been >> bought and there is nothing out there like it. Not in the Li

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Tim, off to bubble-sort the junk piling up on my desk... Joe Zeff: > You do know, don't you, that the most succinct way to write a > bubble-sort is to use recursion? I think I still have the source code > sitting around from the time I did it in C. If you want, let me know > off-list

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread JB
Alain Spineux gmail.com> writes: > > Joe: The index is modified very often and need to be flushed at > regular interval, I don't want to handle read and write. > JB: I already use mmap. > JD: I already tried posix_fadvise with POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED, but this > is not rock solid, if not used for a

Re: pings with noise

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 17:29 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > That is the firwst thisng I lookesw at. Alert vollume is not muted nor > > is it zero. I also checked enable window and button sounds. > > > > But the sounds in ping do not happen. A

Re: pings with noise

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 17:32 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Aaron Konstam > > wrote: > >> > >> That is the firwst thisng I lookesw at. Alert vollume is not muted nor > >> is it zero. I also checked enable window and

Re: F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-11 Thread Alain Spineux
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Neil Bird wrote: > >   I did a belated update of my Fedora 14 box last night, which included a > new kernel (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE, previous was > 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE).  However, upon trying to boot, it slept for a > little bit, then said something lik

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2011 01:54 PM, Tim wrote: > Back when I worked in a library, one of our fears was that some > miscreant would tip out the card file index, and we'd have to spend an > unimaginable amount of time putting the cards back in order. Yes, I know. Back in the mid '80s I did a little work for a

Re: Keep a file in memory an any cost

2011-05-11 Thread Alain Spineux
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:57 PM, JB wrote: > > I do not know if you are aware of: > $ man mmap > ... >       MAP_LOCKED (since Linux 2.5.37) >              Lock the pages of the mapped region into memory in the manner of >              mlock(2).  This flag is ignored in older kernels. > ... > > J

Re: disk hangs with asus boards

2011-05-11 Thread Alain Spineux
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Ralph Blach wrote: > every few days I have either my root file system hang or my disk array hang. > > I am running a asus p5n_d > > my root file system is on a single 500gb disk attached to the asus mother > board. > > [0:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD5000AADS-

Re: pings with noise

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:04 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/10/2011 10:58 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > According to the man page whenever you use the -a option on the ping > > command as in: > > ping -a ip-address > > each ping return should

Re: Networking mailing list ?

2011-05-11 Thread Aaron Gray
On 11 May 2011 21:17, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 19:56:21 +0100, >  Aaron Gray wrote: >> Is there a specialized Linux networking mailing list ? > > http://lartc.org/#mailinglist Many thanks, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-11 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
On 05/11/2011 12:25 PM, Neil Bird wrote: I did a belated update of my Fedora 14 box last night, which included a new kernel (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE, previous was 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE). However, upon trying to boot, it slept for a little bit, then said something like: did you, by a

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 19:32, Konstantinos Karantias wrote: > Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for > Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that > bad. > > If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK > they're s

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 15:31, Joe Zeff wrote: > Ha, ha, ha.  It is to laugh.  Clearly you don't remember "the connector > conspiracy."  For those of you lucky enough not to go back that far, > there was a time when every company had its own proprietary connector > and you couldn't connect one com

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 08:49, Alan Cox wrote: > Microsoft is an advertising company so it'll be able to make very good > use of that data to manage and target adverts better. Not to mention having a VPN pipe to desktops behind firewalls, continuously sending and receiving encrypted traffic witho

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:54, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same > quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service? I´ve been lately becoming a fan of "Jitsi". It´s an open source client that does SIP VOIP (including video), Goo

Fedora 14, 15 , No Video using Geforce 8400GS

2011-05-11 Thread james tate
Fedora 14 or 15 using a GeForce 8400GS on a Live cd, X won't start. Is this card a problem with the Nouveau driver ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedor

Re: Strange SD Card Issue

2011-05-11 Thread Frank Tanner III
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 14:03 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Frank Tanner III > wrote: > > I am having a strange issue where when I plug in an SD or an SDHC card > > into my laptop it gets recognized in /var/log/messages, but it refuses > > to mount. There seems to

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 16:03, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:54, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same >> quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service? > I´ve been lately becoming a fan of "Jitsi". It´s an open source cli

Re: Fedora 14, 15 , No Video using Geforce 8400GS

2011-05-11 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM, james tate wrote: > Fedora 14 or 15 using a GeForce 8400GS on a Live cd,  X won't start. > > Is this card a problem with the Nouveau driver  ? Shouldn't be. I have the Asus version and nouveau ran fine for the short period of time I used it. It's my MythTV box so

Re: Fedora 14, 15 , No Video using Geforce 8400GS

2011-05-11 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, james tate wrote: > Fedora 14 or 15 using a GeForce 8400GS on a Live cd, X won't start. > > Is this card a problem with the Nouveau driver ? > > How much RAM is installed on the system? You should have at least 256MB, preferably 512MB. -- users mailing list use

Formating HDD b4 installing Fedora

2011-05-11 Thread Braja Kishore Chattaraj
I assembled a new PC to install Fedora 14. Boot order is USB, CD/DVD drive, and finally HDD. When I plug the Fedora 14 CD I get the countdown screen with blue background and then some gibberish text fills the screen. From what I can tell it is trying to write to the HDD and failing. Tried a coup

Re: Formating HDD b4 installing Fedora

2011-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 05/11/2011 08:34:24 PM, Braja Kishore Chattaraj wrote: > I assembled a new PC to install Fedora 14. Boot order is USB, CD/DVD > drive, and finally HDD. When I plug the Fedora 14 CD I get the > countdown screen with blue background and then some gibberish text > fills the screen. Is the "countd

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 21:01, JD wrote: > Plus, I can configure it with my local SIP VOIP service, and take > You mean like Vonage or MagicJack? > > Has anyone heard of lingo (http://www.lingo.com/) > voip provider? > What is/was your experience with them? Exactly, SIP is an open protocol. So th

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

2011-05-11 Thread JD
On 05/11/11 21:16, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 21:01, JD wrote: >> Plus, I can configure it with my local SIP VOIP service, and take >> You mean like Vonage or MagicJack? >> >> Has anyone heard of lingo (http://www.lingo.com/) >> voip provider? >> What is/was your experience w