R: Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14

2011-02-11 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
>Messaggio originale >Da: an...@kde.org >Data: 11-feb-2011 7.52 >A: "Community support for Fedora users" >Ogg: Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14 > >On Friday 11 February 2011 07:34:50 Rohit Farmer wrote: >> I have just bought Dell Inspiron M501R AMD Phenom Quad Core, which

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 11 February 2011 02:48:18 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > One could avoid this problem to a good extend by > > cherry picking updates and doing just security updates on your system is > > simple and easy with either PackageKit or yum (

Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14

2011-02-11 Thread JB
Rohit Farmer gmail.com> writes: > ... This should give you some initial help: Google search: fedora wireless BCM4313 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1442742 JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

Re: Kororaa 14 Beta2 released

2011-02-11 Thread Hiisi
pe, 2011-02-11 kello 16:54 +1100, Chris Smart kirjoitti: > > Let me know what you think. Well, since you asked... I think it sounds pretty cool! Will give it a try soon enough. -- Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds -- u

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/11/2011 03:50 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 11 February 2011 02:48:18 Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> One could avoid this problem to a good extend by >>> cherry picking updates and doing just security updates on your system is >>> si

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread JB
Anne Wilson kde.org> writes: > ... $ yum list "*yum*security*" JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Jon Ingason
2011-02-11 08:50, Anne Wilson skrev: > On Friday 11 February 2011 02:48:18 Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> One could avoid this problem to a good extend by >>> cherry picking updates and doing just security updates on your system is >>> simple a

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread JB
les pacbell.net> writes: > ... > It doesn't help that the governments of the world and the business > admins want back door access to the users systems. The legality of that > access is for another thread, but one of the side effects is that really > effective security would make that access ne

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Hiisi
pe, 2011-02-11 kello 09:02 +, JB kirjoitti: > China (and Russia, btw) do it in their own interest. So does everybody > else. Could you provide some links? TIA Hiisi Moscow, Russia -- We come to bury DOS, not to praise it. -- Paul Vojta, vo...@math.berkeley.edu -- users maili

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Hiisi wrote: >> China (and Russia, btw) do it in their own interest. So does everybody >> else. > > Could you provide some links? > TIA > Hiisi >        Moscow, Russia heh heh heh. In the age of the Net, it´s also dangerous to wave unsubstained accusations :-

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 11 February 2011 08:21:19 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/11/2011 03:50 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Friday 11 February 2011 02:48:18 Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> One could avoid this problem to a good extend by > >>> cherry picking

Re: R: Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14

2011-02-11 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 11 February 2011 08:06:15 antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > >Messaggio originale > >Da: an...@kde.org > >Data: 11-feb-2011 7.52 > > >A: > "Community support for Fedora users" > > >Ogg: Re: > Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14 > > >On Friday 11 February 2011 07:34:50 >

how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread erikmccaskey64
Fedora 14, with GNOME: sudo works without password: visudo MYUSER ALL=(transmission-user) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk then: xhost local:transmission-user sudo -u transmission-user -- /usr/bin/transmission-gtk ok, it runs without prompting for a password. [I'm logged in with the "MYUSER

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread JB
Hiisi fedoraproject.org> writes: > > pe, 2011-02-11 kello 09:02 +, JB kirjoitti: > > China (and Russia, btw) do it in their own interest. So does everybody > > else. > > Could you provide some links? > TIA > Hiisi > Moscow, Russia http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security/2010/07/08/micro

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:47 AM, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > > Fedora 14, with GNOME: > > sudo works without password: > > visudo > MYUSER ALL=(transmission-user) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk > > then: > xhost local:transmission-user > sudo -u transmission-user -- /usr/bin/transmission-gtk > >

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/business/global/23telecom.html http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=d54bf5a301e73cbba0663d69a33d80c0 http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=343&page=2 JB -- users

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread erikmccaskey64
[root@a ~]# kdesudo bash: kdesudo: command not found... [root@a ~]# yum search kdesudo Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding en_US to language list Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 29015. Another app is currently holding the yum lo

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:09 AM, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > [root@a ~]# kdesudo > bash: kdesudo: command not found... > [root@a ~]# yum search kdesudo > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > Adding en_US to language list > Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread erikmccaskey64
if i visudo MYUSER ALL=(transmission-user) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk and xhost local:transmission-user sudo -u transmission-user -- /usr/bin/transmission-gtk then it works perfectly. but my original problem is that it needs a "gnome-terminal" (i need the "kdesu" or whatever in

Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14

2011-02-11 Thread Jim
On 02/11/2011 02:52 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 11 February 2011 07:34:50 Rohit Farmer wrote: >> I have just bought Dell Inspiron M501R AMD Phenom Quad Core, which was >> bundled with windows7 where all the features are working fine. I then >> installed Fedora 14 64 bit on a partition and no

setup nfs w/o synchronizing uids?

2011-02-11 Thread Neal Becker
Is it possible to setup nfs (server+clients) without syncing uid's? Is it possible to do this without having to setup nfs4+kerberos? If so, how? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

username, password and proxy setting for yum and in general

2011-02-11 Thread Alain Roger
Hi, at work i installed Fedora 14 and i needed to export http_proxy variable because we use a proxy. however, for now it is written in plaintext in .bashrc file and in yum.conf file. this has 2 issue. 1. my username and password are human readable 2. in our company password must be changed every

username, password for proxy setting in yum and for other purpose

2011-02-11 Thread Alain Roger
Hi, at work i installed Fedora 14 and i needed to export http_proxy variable because we use a proxy. however, for now it is written in plaintext in .bashrc file and in yum.conf file. this has 2 issue. 1. my username and password are human readable 2. in our company password must be changed every

Re: setup nfs w/o synchronizing uids?

2011-02-11 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Is it possible to setup nfs (server+clients) without syncing uid's?  Is it > possible to do this without having to setup nfs4+kerberos?  If so, how? You didn't mention the full context of what you're trying to do. Is this for a simple home net

Re: username, password for proxy setting in yum and for other purpose

2011-02-11 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 15:44 +0100, Alain Roger wrote: > 2. in our company password must be changed every 60 days. Actually, that's not a security measure. It's a false belief. And tends to have the opposite effect. It's harder for people to remember changing passwords, particularly when they ha

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Hiisi
On 11 February 2011 13:30, JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > >> ... > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/business/global/23telecom.html > > http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=d54bf5a301e73cbba0663d69a33d80c0 > > http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=C

Re: users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 33

2011-02-11 Thread Rohit Farmer
Got the answer to activate the wireless card on Dell laptops (M501R) in Fedora 14 using Broadcom Card. Use the driver given in the following link and follow the readme file to install. http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Rohit 2011/2/11 > Send users mailing list submissions

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:47 AM, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > > visudo > MYUSER ALL=(transmission-user) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk Why do you want to run transmission as super user? Isn't that extremely unsafe since its a peer-to-peer data transfer app? If you could share, maybe there are saf

Netgear wnda3100V2

2011-02-11 Thread JD
Has anyone been able to bring up wnda3100V2 using ath9k driver? The chipset in this USB device is AR9170 / AR9104 Thanx, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http:/

Re: Not able to connect to wifi in Fedora 14 (SOLVED)

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Rohit Farmer wrote: > Got the answer to activate the wireless card on Dell laptops (M501R) in > Fedora 14 using Broadcom Card. > > Use the driver given in the following link and follow the readme file to > install. > > http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_s

Re: users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 33

2011-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Please don't reply to digests, and especially don't reply to digests and quite the entire fscking digest in your message (which will now show up all over again in the next digest). Reply only to the specific message within the digest (most mail clients support this). Also, don't top-post. See the

Re: Skype - No sound from microphone

2011-02-11 Thread Joshua C.
2011/1/30 Matthew Saltzman : > On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 20:16 +0200, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > >> Using audacity for example . At first i could here no sound . But then >> when i went to preferences and chose the usb camera , things worked >> correctly . So i guess we can assume that the system itse

Re: users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 33

2011-02-11 Thread g
On 02/11/2011 06:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Please don't reply to digests, and especially don't reply to digests and > quite the entire fscking digest in your message (which will now show up > all over again in the next digest). 2 words misspelled. :) > Reply only to the specific message

Re: users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 33

2011-02-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/11/2011 10:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Please don't reply to digests, and especially don't reply to digests and > quite the entire fscking digest in your message (which will now show up > all over again in the next digest). It could be worse, and it has been. About fifteen years ago

Re: users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 33 {Posting Error}

2011-02-11 Thread James Mckenzie
Rohit Farmer wrote: > >Got the answer to activate the wireless card on Dell laptops (M501R) in >Fedora 14 using Broadcom Card. > >Use the driver given in the following link and follow the readme file to >install. > >http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php > Answer to WHAT? Please use

OOcalc plotting performance issue

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
I'm having some pretty severe performance problems with OpenOffice Calc. Here's the environment: Intel 2.67 GHz P4 (yes it's underpowered, but see below) NVidia 7600 GS over-clocked with 260.19.36 binary driver 1.5 GB memory Fedora 14 latest patches The applications: OpenOffice Calc 3.3.0-20.2

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Darr
On Thursday, February 10, 2011 @21:49 zulu, Fernando Cassia scribed (twice): > Are you using a time machine to report news, from the past? look > at the dates... > > Published: Mar 07 2010 12:00AM > Updated: Apr 27 2010 02:22PM > > FC Please don't CC to fedora-l...@redhat.com Thanks. :-) --

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Darr
On Thursday, February 10, 2011 @22:35 zulu, Rahul Sundaram scribed: > but this has absolutely nothing to do with viruses and > anti-viruses tools are not going to help against security exploits > > Rahul Wouldn't SELinux stop that, anyway? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Outway
I don't see in what way a mailing list is superior to a newsgroup. But I do see several advantages of a newsgroup: * Clear thread structure (collapsable trees in standard news readers) * No filtering on reader's side necessary * Inappropriate messages can be removed after the fact (by a moderator)

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0100 Outway wrote: > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing > list instead of a newsgroup? Many ISP's no longer provide NNTP access as part of their services. Mine, for example, stopped providing a newsserver just about exactly a yea

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0100, Outway wrote: > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing > list instead of a newsgroup? You could read the mailing list from a list to newsgroup service like gmane. 1. Subscribe to the list 2. Set it so that you don't receive ma

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 02/11/2011 03:11 PM, Outway wrote: > I don't see in what way a mailing list is superior to a newsgroup. But I > do see several advantages of a newsgroup: > > * Clear thread structure (collapsable trees in standard news readers) > * No filtering on reader's side necessary > * Inappropriate messag

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Hiisi
pe, 2011-02-11 kello 15:30 -0600, Robert Nichols kirjoitti: > Just aim your newsreader at news.gmane.org and subscribe to > gname.linux.redhat.fedora.general . Web interface to the many mailing > lists gatewayed through Gmane is available at http://www.gmane.org . > > This probably should be do

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread erikmccaskey64
i don't want to run it with root the MYUSER is a user with low permissions!! i just don't know how to run a GUI application from a .desktop file with another user under Fedora 14. [another user= not the one that i'm using for everyday desktop use] Be Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:21:56 -0800 suv

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 21:30 +, Mark Eggers wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0100, Outway wrote: > > > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing > > list instead of a newsgroup? > > You could read the mailing list from a list to newsgroup service like > gma

Re: username, password and proxy setting for yum and in general

2011-02-11 Thread Chris Smart
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Alain Roger wrote: > Hi, > > at work i installed Fedora 14 and i needed to export http_proxy variable > because we use a proxy. What kind of proxy is it? Windows NTLM? -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 11 February 2011 21:55, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 21:30 +, Mark Eggers wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0100, Outway wrote: >> >> > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing >> > list instead of a newsgroup? >> >> You could read the ma

Re: how to run kdesu without asking password?

2011-02-11 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > i don't want to run it with root > the MYUSER is a user with low permissions!! > i just don't know how to run a GUI application from a .desktop file with > another user under Fedora 14. > [another user= not the one that i'm using for everyda

Info on ath9k driver for AR9170+AR9102 USB dongle

2011-02-11 Thread JD
I am looking into purchasing this USB dongle with the Atheros AR9170+AR9102 chipsets. Has anyone had any problem using a usb wifi dongle with this chipset? Thanx, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Darr wrote: > On Thursday, February 10, 2011 @21:49 zulu, Fernando Cassia scribed (twice): > >> Are you using a time machine to report news, from the past? look >> at the dates... >> >> Published:  Mar 07 2010 12:00AM >> Updated: Apr 27 2010 02:22PM >> >> FC > > Pl

RE: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread mattias
Are we talking about antivirus software? If so No need for it on linux -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Cassia Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:22 AM To: Community support for Fedora users

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 11 February 2011 23:22, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Darr wrote: >> On Thursday, February 10, 2011 @21:49 zulu, Fernando Cassia scribed (twice): >> >>> Are you using a time machine to report news, from the past? look >>> at the dates... >>> >>> Published:  Mar 07 2

RE: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread mattias
I reealy not understand anything now -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sharpe Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:40 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: No need for AV tools on

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 11 February 2011 23:26, mattias wrote: > Are we talking about antivirus software? > If so > No need for it on linux Are you trolling? I can't tell, so I'm going to assume you are serious. It's this kind of attitude that will *make* Linux a bigger target... I run critical production servers a

RE: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread mattias
But linux viruses? How many exist? Yes i'm are serious -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sharpe Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:44 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: No need

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:26:14 +0100, mattias wrote: > Are we talking about antivirus software? If so > No need for it on linux I disagree. It's not so much about keeping Linux safe (although there have been and continue to be exploits), but it is about keeping people who consume information from

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/11/2011 03:43 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > - I'm worried about Windows viruses being transmitted through those > Linux machines to Windows users. Yup! And, if I were doing what you're doing, I'd be doing the same thing you are. However, I'm running a home LAN, with two Linux boxen on it and s

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 11 February 2011 23:48, mattias wrote: > But linux viruses? > How many exist? > Yes i'm are serious As I said - it's not about today's threat, it is about tomorrow's. Installing AV once you have been notified about a real, working linux virus is not an effective countermeasure. The problem co

RE: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread mattias
Yes if you running a windows box to i can understand you But only linux A big NO -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Joe Zeff Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:56 AM To: Community support for Fedora u

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 11 February 2011 23:58, mattias wrote: > Yes if you running a windows box to i can understand you > But only linux > A big > NO I applaud your self confidence in the fact you are better at defending your system than a clever virus writer is at attacking it. I wish you luck in the future and si

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:02:32AM +, Sam Sharpe wrote: > I applaud your self confidence in the fact you are better at defending > your system than a clever virus writer is at attacking it. I wish you > luck in the future and sincerely hope you are never compromised. Yah, yah... > I however,

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/11/2011 04:50 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > and that means you have to find a flaw not only in the systems/services/ > software that runs as root, but*also* find a way to get your exploit > executed as root. And, of course, on Fedora, you have SELinux to contend with as well. -- users mailing li

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/11/11 4:42 PM, mattias wrote: > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sharpe > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:40 AM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: No need for AV

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 23:57:44 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: > > Installing AV once you have been notified about a real, working linux > virus is not an effective countermeasure. The problem could have been > in the wild for hours/days/weeks by that point and you could already > be compromised. AV

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 00:02:32 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: > > I however, will be relying on a multi-layered defence both at home and > at work, and that includes running anti-virus. I just don't see any > reason not to add this to my defence measures. Because it costs money. (Indirectly at lea

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 18:50:16 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: > > On Linux and Unix, you run by default with restricted permissions. To > crack the system, nothing less than root access really gives you the gold; That's not true. Often the privileges accorded to normal users are plenty good enoug