Re: Wireless problem in Fedora13

2010-06-26 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:10:56 -0700 JD wrote: > > > On 06/24/2010 06:24 PM, Thomas Taylor was caught red-handed while writing:: > > Hi all; > > > > Recently installed Fedora13 and am working through problems. I've managed > > to solve most by lots of reading documentation and googling but am be

Re: Request for a K3B enhancement... multiple disk data splitting.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Neither tar nor cpio force you to use tape. true. but they are easier to use than a lot of tape backup progs. i never learned to use tar, as i was taught using 'find | cpio'. > In fact they are usually not used with tape at all not true. could be things are run a

Re: Wireless problem in Fedora13

2010-06-26 Thread JD
On 06/26/2010 12:08 AM, Thomas Taylor was caught red-handed while writing:: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:10:56 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> >> >> On 06/24/2010 06:24 PM, Thomas Taylor was caught red-handed while writing:: >>> Hi all; >>> >>> Recently installed Fedora13 and am working through problems. I'

Yum update

2010-06-26 Thread Mike Guilmot
Getting errors when trying to update F13 Can't seem to find out which one is giving the problem. Anybody has an idea ? Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package ekiga.i686 0:3.2.7-2.fc13 set to be updated ---> Package empathy.i686 0:2.30.2-2.fc13 s

Re: Impossible to find folder which contains kernel headers

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
Robert G. (Doc) Savage: >> $ rpm -qil kernel-headers >> >> This will list all of the component files and their locations. >> Suvayu Ali: > I believe there is no need for the i. This should suffice, > > $ rpm -ql kernel-headers Correct. The "i" option will show information about the package, it'

Re: DNS services no longer work due to missing files

2010-06-26 Thread aragonx
Happened to me too.  This isn't the first time an update to named took my router down... To fix it, I commented out the following lines: dnssec-enable yes; dnssec-validation yes; dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.; Since those are the ones that are looking for the missing files.  Whe

Re: DNS services no longer work due to missing files

2010-06-26 Thread aragonx
> To fix it, I commented out the following > lines: > > dnssec-enable yes; > dnssec-validation yes; > dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.; As a side note.  Even though the above fixed my lookup errors on my router and client machines, Squid still can't do lookups (which is located on t

Re: Yum update

2010-06-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/26/2010 01:08 PM, Mike Guilmot wrote: > Getting errors when trying to update F13 > Can't seem to find out which one is giving the problem. Anybody has an idea ? > > Error: Package: nautilus-sendto-2.28.4-1.fc13.i686 > (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) >Requires: libe

Re: OT: NIS to LDAP/AD advise

2010-06-26 Thread bryan
On 25/06/2010 23:21, Jamie Bohr wrote: Hello All, Sorry this is off-topic but I would like some advise from this list and possibly get an understanding of what other large organizations are doing for UNIX/Linux authentication management. I am a Senior Administrator for 3000 UNIX/Linux based

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:48am on Saturday, June 26, 2010 (UK time), JD scrawled: > Did not google's founder expose a Chinese dissident's > identity to China's government and the executed him? I honestly don't think Google have executed anyone. Steve -- (o< www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 25/06/10 13:34, Craig White wrote: > should work if you can ping it > > Craig > > > Also, someone suggested using "rsync" [which I asked about several days ago and got no response?] The message suggesting rsync was received in t-bird on the "new" computer [box9] and when I

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread g
Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 25/06/10 13:34, Craig White wrote: >> should work if you can ping it > Also, someone suggested using "rsync" [which I asked about several > days ago and got no response?] > > The message suggesting rsync was received in t-bird on the "new" > computer [box9]

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 15:29 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> Are you talking about something like this from sendmail.mc: >> >> FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `"Rejected due to Open Relay see >> http://www.ordb.org/lookup/?host="; $&{clientaddr} " for more >> informat

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2010 07:48 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Greg Woods wrote: > > >> On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 15:29 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> >> >>> Are you talking about something like this from sendmail.mc: >>> >>> FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', `"Rejected due to Open Relay see >>> http://

Re: uuid -> /dev/sdx partition resize

2010-06-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/25/2010 08:58 PM, L wrote: > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Mikkel wrote: >> On 06/25/2010 04:19 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Mikkel wrote: You may have to re-install Grub. When you change the size of the /boot partation, you may change th

Re: Request for a K3B enhancement... multiple disk data splitting.

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 07:09 +, g wrote: > > In fact they are usually not used with tape at all > > not true. could be things are run a little different on this side of > pond. > > 'find | cpio' was used by 5 admin's on mainframe systems that i did > equipment support on. numerous other admin'

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 12:48 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Are you saying you can implement spamhaus by a line in sendmail.mc ? I have avoided actually saying that because it has been years since I did anything with sendmail, I have been using postfix, so I cannot comment on sendmail syntax. Howe

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/25/2010 06:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:54:27 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> I wonder how Google does it. only .01% of my google email is spam. >> The spam folder contains tons of spam, and it is automatically purged >> by google. > Yea, I just use gmail as my mail provider and

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/26/2010 01:17 AM, g wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> I just downloaded and installed tbird 3.1.1 RC2 and enigmail 1.1. >> >> Works fine on F13 under KDE. > did you install tb 3.1.1 to /usr/local/ or /usr/lib/? > > enigmail 1.1 or 1.1.1? I'm running 64-bit 3.1 with enigmail 1.01 with no pro

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/25/2010 02:05 PM, g wrote: > Jerry Feldman wrote: > > >> This weekend I plan on installing the 32-bit version initially with no >> extensions after further checking. > much luck. may your weekend be productive, joy full, and time spent with > more pleasurable time than 32 bit thunderbird. :

Re: Native ZFS in Fedora?

2010-06-26 Thread Valent Turkovic
> That first link says: > > "The ZFS Posix Layer has not been implemented yet, therefore mounting > file systems is not yet possible;" > > and: > > "Currently in the ZFS for Linux port the only interface available from > user space is the zvol," the project's website reads, "The zvol allows > you t

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:52:33 -0400 Jerry Feldman wrote: > Preliminary results. I went back and checked every account setting, and > I found that I was downloading all iMAP mail That's why I like to run some kind of system monitor app showing me disk, memory, and network activity. That way when so

Re: 32-bit upgrade fails on Thinkpad

2010-06-26 Thread stan
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:42:39 -0500 "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" wrote: > I'm hoping this is a known problem with an easy work-around. It looks > like an RPM versioning problem of some sort, but I'm not 100% sure. > I think you are right. > Running anaconda 13.42, the Fedora system install

Firefox got better...

2010-06-26 Thread Tom Horsley
A while back I noticed that all flash content flickered something horrible when I scrolled the firefox window contents. I wondered if the problem was flash, or firefox, or ATI driver, but had no way to tell for sure. (This started happening on Fedora 13 - it wasn't a problem on Fedora 12). Today I

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> Are you saying you can implement spamhaus by a line in sendmail.mc ? >> If so, what is the line? > > FEATURE(`dnsbl', `zen.spamhaus.org', `"550 Mail from " $`'&{client_addr} > " refused - see http://www.spamhaus.org/";') > > is specific to spamhaus. > > Typing "spamhaus sen

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-26 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/26/2010 01:56 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/26/2010 02:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 14:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> >>> I don't use that repository...so it is meaningless to me. :-) >>> >> Your call, but you don't need to have it enabled permanently (I don

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 07:13 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: [b...@box9 ~]$ rsync -av b...@box6:/home/bobg/.thunderbird . > > The message was lost. This does a fine job of making both sets of > mail files the same, effectively replacing the box9 files with the > box6 mail files which was what

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2010 10:15 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Assuming this is correct, and is an effective safeguard, > it seems a little surprising to me that it is not suggested > somewhere in the Fedora-13 documentation. > (Or maybe it is?) > I have not found blacklisting to be particularly useful mysel

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
In case you missed this post - here is a reasonable recipe based on many years of senamil server admin'ing - feel free to modify, improve or ignore! On 06/25/2010 09:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > >1) FEATURE(`enhdnsbl', `bl.spamcop.net', `', `t', `127.0.0.2.')dnl >Add more if

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-26 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/06/2010 16:32, Steven Stern a écrit : > Enigmail's help files indicate that it may have something to do with > getting a version compiled to be compatible with "your distribution". > As far as I can tell, only 1.0.1 is in rpmfusion, so I'll wait a few > days and try again. Version "compati

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread stan
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:06:31 +0930 Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:54 -0700, JD wrote: > > I wonder how Google does it. only .01% of my google email is spam. > > The spam folder contains tons of spam, and it is automatically > > purged by google. > > When you're a large mail host you have

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 26.06.2010 16:47, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 06/26/2010 10:15 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> > >> > Assuming this is correct, and is an effective safeguard, >> > it seems a little surprising to me that it is not suggested >> > somewhere in the Fedora-13 documentation. >> > (Or maybe it is?) >> >

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 26.06.2010 16:49, schrieb stan: > My ISP (Qwest) uses the commercial version of hotmail as their mail > service for subscribers. In over a year, I don't remember seeing a > single spam email. I suspect Tim's argument is the reason. Hotmail is > *known* for spam, so they would get lots of pract

What the %$%@ is up with firefox

2010-06-26 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I logged into my laptop this AM and discovered that during the night firefox had crashed. I restarted it and now it wont display any sites. Every tab that is supposed to auto start is blank, even though it remembers the site address it wont load content no matter how many times I reload the page.

Re: F13 udev rule boot warning messages

2010-06-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 15:55:47 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I'm getting this in my otherwise clean boot log. What, if anything, do > I need to do about them ? You can file a bug against the package providing the rules file. I did this for some rules files in the past, but haven't systematica

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread JD
On 06/26/2010 02:39 AM, Steve Searle was caught red-handed while writing:: > Around 04:48am on Saturday, June 26, 2010 (UK time), JD scrawled: > >> Did not google's founder expose a Chinese dissident's >> identity to China's government and the executed him? > > I honestly don't think Google have

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > Preliminary results. I went back and checked every account setting, and > I found that I was downloading all iMAP mail, and since gmail stores > SPAM for 30 days and stores trash forever, the All MAIL folder was huge. sounds like someone forgot to do his 'monthly house cle

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > I'm running 64-bit 3.1 with enigmail 1.01 with no problem. interesting. [note link below] 1.01? or do you mean 1.0.1? makes me wonder why enigmail folks came out with enigmail 1.1.1 and do not have a 64 bit version for thunderbird 3.1 64 bit yet. maybe you should have a

Re: Request for a K3B enhancement... multiple disk data splitting.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > You may have misunderstood what I meant. I didn't mean "people don't use > tar or cpio when backing up to tape". ok. > I meant "people mostly use tar and cpio for tasks other than backing up to > tape". This is self-evident given the huge number of tarballs (and so

Re: DNS services no longer work due to missing files

2010-06-26 Thread Robert Nichols
On 06/25/2010 11:27 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I just updated one of my Fedora 12 system. This particular system is > running a local dns server. When I try to restart named on the system I > get: > > Starting named: > Error in named configuration: > /etc/pki/dnssec-keys//named.dnssec.keys:1: op

Re: Request for a K3B enhancement... multiple disk data splitting.

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 15:42 +, g wrote: > > I meant "people mostly use tar and cpio for tasks other than backing > up to > > tape". This is self-evident given the huge number of tarballs (and > some > > cpio sets) available for download, which have nothing to do with > tape > > backup. > > i b

Re: Firefox got better...

2010-06-26 Thread g
Tom Horsley wrote: > So, if anyone else has noticed flash flashing them, > get the firefox update :-). this was an issue and discussed on firefox support list. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux t

Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread Jim
FC12/KDE When starting Firefox I get this Error message below, The same error message in /home/user or /root desktops when starting Firefox. I deleted /.mozilla folder in /home/user and put Bookmarks back in /.mozilla and still got the same Error message below. Where and how do I fix this pr

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/06/10 07:13, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 25/06/10 13:34, Craig White wrote: >> should work if you can ping it >> >> Craig >> >> > > >Also, someone suggested using "rsync" [which I asked about several >days ago and got no response?] > >The message suggesting rsync was received in t-bir

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 09:52 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 06/25/2010 02:05 PM, g wrote: > > Jerry Feldman wrote: > > > > > >> This weekend I plan on installing the 32-bit version initially with no > >> extensions after further checking. > > much luck. may your weekend be productive, joy full, a

Re: Request for a K3B enhancement... multiple disk data splitting.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Apples and oranges. Tar and rpm are not directly comparable. true. i was thinking zip. my fingers and eyes were not listening. > I've never liked cpio (you use what you know) but that's a matter of > personal preference. if you did any backing up with tape, you wou

Re: What the %$%@ is up with firefox

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 08:02 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I logged into my laptop this AM and discovered that during the night > firefox had crashed. I restarted it and now it wont display any > sites. Every tab that is supposed to auto start is blank, even though > it remembers the site address

Re: Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jim wrote: > Where and how do I fix this problem ?? first: what version? try 'firefox --safe-mode' from a command line. next, create a new user to see what happens. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - giv

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 12:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > settings. > > As you probably know, the way to limit this is via folder subscriptions. > Also, I don't download IMAP mail but rather access it online. That > depends on your needs of course. > TB always downloads if GLODA is on ... best turn

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 12:24 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: The rsync man page has a very long list of options and the > functional descriptions are not as clear as they might be but it > appears that the "-u" option accomplishes what I need, at least it > worked for a test message I sent to myself a

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 25/06/10 20:11, g wrote: > Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> It seems I ask this question after every new Fedora release. How do >> I go about transferring my Thunderbird pop mail files from this F-12 >> computer to a second computer running F-13. >> > and you will probably ask again. ;) >

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 12:24 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 26/06/10 07:13, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 25/06/10 13:34, Craig White wrote: > >> should work if you can ping it > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > > > > > >Also, someone suggested using "rsync" [which I asked about several > >days ago and

Re: libedataserver dependency problem

2010-06-26 Thread John Aldrich
On Sat June 26 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's been noted on the Fedora Test list. I'm also getting it. Usually > when this sort of thing happens you just wait a day or two and try > again. > Good to know. I'm also one of those seeing this. I did update using "-- skip-broken" and that work

Re: What the %$%@ is up with firefox

2010-06-26 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 06/26/2010 09:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 08:02 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > >> I logged into my laptop this AM and discovered that during the night >> firefox had crashed. I restarted it and now it wont display any >> sites. Every tab that is supposed to au

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread g
Bob Goodwin wrote: > If that is not the best choice I would appreciate advise. if you are trying to bring in old files from f12 into f13 and are no longer using f12, then you are not going to be able to if your are now using f13 for emails. what you are going to have to do is copy in f12 files

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread g
Bob Goodwin wrote: > No, I don't think so, I've got the process pretty well documented > now using either scp or rsync. > I will save this for reading and self-education. > I am very much aware of the .Thunderbird files but had numerous problems > trying to copy them between t-bird

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/06/10 12:46, Craig White wrote: > > > probably a real bad idea for anything but a one time sync. I don't use > pop3 but I gather that Thunderbird uses an mbox format which means that > you will could easily replace a file and lose e-mails. > > The only real solution is to set up an IMAP

re- Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread Jim
I ran the firefox --safe-mode and the only thing I could check about reset users defaults There was nothing about creating new users. And I got this Error message from the command line. Error message; (firefox:7408): Pango-WARNING **: shaping failure, expect ugly output. shape-engine='BasicEn

Re: re- Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread Jim
On 06/26/2010 01:20 PM, Jim wrote: > I ran the firefox --safe-mode and the only thing I could check about > reset users defaults > There was nothing about creating new users. > > And I got this Error message from the command line. > > > Error message; > > (firefox:7408): Pango-WARNING **: shaping

Re: libedataserver dependency problem

2010-06-26 Thread JD
On 06/26/2010 09:51 AM, John Aldrich was caught red-handed while writing:: > On Sat June 26 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> It's been noted on the Fedora Test list. I'm also getting it. Usually >> when this sort of thing happens you just wait a day or two and try >> again. >> > Good to know.

Re: re- Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jim wrote: > I ran the firefox --safe-mode and the only thing I could check about > reset users defaults > There was nothing about creating new users. did not mean via firefox. create another fedora user and open firefox in normal mode and from command line to see if you get errors. > And I got

clock-applet broken

2010-06-26 Thread Frank Elsner
Hi, the clock-applet was broken after upgrading evolution-data-server from version evolution-data-server-2.30.1-2 to version evolution-data-server-2.30.2-2 with error message /usr/libexec/clock-applet: error while loading shared libraries: libedataserver-1.2.so.11: cannot open shared object

Re: DNS services no longer work due to missing files

2010-06-26 Thread Robert Nichols
On 06/26/2010 11:03 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 06/25/2010 11:27 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: >> I just updated one of my Fedora 12 system. This particular system is >> running a local dns server. When I try to restart named on the system I >> get: >> >> Starting named: >> Error in named configur

Re: re- Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread Jim
geleen, thanks for your responds. The users-list is not sending me emails any more, I have to go right to the Achrieve Website to check and see if I have any Responds to my emails I send out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: libedataserver dependency problem

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 12:51 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sat June 26 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > It's been noted on the Fedora Test list. I'm also getting it. Usually > > when this sort of thing happens you just wait a day or two and try > > again. > > > Good to know. I'm also one of t

Discussion/help re: spellcheck shortcut ?!?

2010-06-26 Thread William Case
Hi; I may be getting into something here that may be too complex, but ... I would like to create a script or other programming that I can bind to a shortcut key (Say Ctrl+Alt+F7) that does the following as I am typing: When typing along and a previous word appears underlined in read as a spellin

Re: clock-applet broken

2010-06-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:52:28 +0200, Frank wrote: > > Hi, > > the clock-applet was broken after upgrading evolution-data-server > from version evolution-data-server-2.30.1-2 > to version evolution-data-server-2.30.2-2 How did you manage to upgrade? Manually with --nodeps? > with error messag

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 22:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/26/2010 10:15 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I actually find SpamAssassin by itself is quite adequate, > > reducing spam to perhaps 5% of my email. > > But if adding SpamHaus improves even this > > I am more than willing to try it. > > >

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 22:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > A while back I did some observations and found that greylisting was most > effective at cutting spam. I forgot to mention that we use greylisting too; I highly recommend this as well. It is difficult to tell how many greylisted messages were

Re: Top posting

2010-06-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: > On Friday, June 25, 2010 03:20:53 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: >> Fool. >> > > Regardless of the relative merits of top or bottom posting the 'fool' comment > is uncalled for. How is it that such a trivial issue can drive us to such > comments; unless perh

F13 - Advanced Volume control

2010-06-26 Thread Federico Marziali
Hello to the list again... While I'm still fighting with the display and nvidia drivers, I've come across another problem on my Sony Vaio, this time with the sound capture. Basically I can't get any of my microphones to record any input, nor the laptop built-in one, nor by connecting an external on

device notifier just stopped working

2010-06-26 Thread Neal Becker
Don't know if it's device notifier, or kernel, or what. Plugging in my nexus one, device notifier is no longer working. Jun 26 16:06:04 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 Jun 26 16:06:04 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=18

Missing files from tog-pegasus package

2010-06-26 Thread JD
I installed tog-pegasus-2.9.0-10.fc13.i686 and found that the following files, which are listed as provided by the package are missing even after removing and re installing the package via yum. To wit: these files are missing: /usr/bin/cimmof-32 /usr/bin/cimmofl-32 /usr/bin/cimprovider-32 /usr/bin/

Re: Missing files from tog-pegasus package

2010-06-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:12:48 -0700, JD wrote: > I installed tog-pegasus-2.9.0-10.fc13.i686 > and found that the following files, which are > listed as provided by the package are missing > even after removing and re installing the package > via yum. To wit: these files are missing: > /usr/bin/cimm

Re: re- Error Messages when openning Firefox.

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jim wrote: > geleen, thanks for your responds. welcome. geleem excuse delay. fell asleep watch soccer match. woke up in time to see USA lose. > The users-list is not sending me emails any more, I have to go right to > the Achrieve Website > to check and see if I have any Responds to my email

Re: Discussion/help re: spellcheck shortcut ?!?

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 15:36 -0400, William Case wrote: > I would like to create a script or other programming that I can bind > to a shortcut key (Say Ctrl+Alt+F7) that does the following as I am > typing: You should say /what/ program you're typing into. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 06/25/2010 06:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/25/2010 05:56 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > > > Historical thoughts on RBL: > >You've had several suggestions so just a couple of comments. The > MAPS list (aka rbl) was an/the original DNSBL - if I remember right it > went weird a long back and

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 10:36 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On your lan choose 1 machine to be your local mail server - run imap > (ie dovecot) - then put all your mail in there (via fetchmail, set > client to download pop mail to the imap server or whatever). And, for peace of mind, use something

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/27/2010 03:55 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > > It should be noted that greylisting *will* cause some delays in > legitimate messages, and the length of the delay is totally under the > control of the sending server. Personally, I think any communication > that can't tolerate a few minutes or even an

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > This probably is not the best or right solution for everyday use. I > don't question your advise. But really, once I get the F-13 computer > set up it becomes my primary e-mail box and there will be no further > need to transfer t-bird files b

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > A well written greylisting milter will utilize a database to maintain > a list of sending MTAs that have retried. Additionally, the good > milters will have the ability to specify whitelists and blacklists. > But, even if you don't do the work

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/27/2010 08:46 AM, Tim wrote: > > Where greylisting, typically, becomes a cropper is when some *BIG* > service like Yahoo tries to mail you, gets grey listed, and it spits the > dummy about not being able to post (some do get pernickity about it, > with a low threshold for suspending posts tha

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 10:16 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > A well written greylisting milter will utilize a database to maintain > > a list of sending MTAs that have retried. Additionally, the good > > milters will have the ability to specify whitelist

A message from the Fedora Board to all of our users

2010-06-26 Thread Jon Stanley
There have been recent discussions on this list surrounding the fact that users feel left out of the Fedora decision making process. As the Fedora leadership, we'd like to do nothing more than engage the user community as key participants in constructive dialog around the direction that Fedora Proj

Re: [Bulk] Re: Discussion/help re: spellcheck shortcut ?!?

2010-06-26 Thread William Case
Hi Tim; On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 09:13 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 15:36 -0400, William Case wrote: > > I would like to create a script or other programming that I can bind > > to a shortcut key (Say Ctrl+Alt+F7) that does the following as I am > > typing: > > You should say /what/ pro

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/06/10 20:39, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> This probably is not the best or right solution for everyday use. I >> don't question your advise. But really, once I get the F-13 computer >> set up it becomes my primary e-mail box and there will be no

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 26/06/10 20:17, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 10:36 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> On your lan choose 1 machine to be your local mail server - run imap >> (ie dovecot) - then put all your mail in there (via fetchmail, set >> client to download pop mail to the imap server or whatever

Evolution Update Fails

2010-06-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
The system has informed me via the Update Applet that evolution needs to be upgraded to 2.30.2-1, but the upgrade fails with these messages: could not do simulate: empathy-2.30.1.1-1.fc13.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.11()(64bit) gnome-panel-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 requires l

Re: Evolution Update Fails

2010-06-26 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Nope, I'm seeing the same thing. On 06/26/2010 08:30 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The system has informed me via the Update Applet that evolution needs to > be upgraded to 2.30.2-1, but the upgrade fails with these messages: > could not do simulate: empathy-2.30.1.1-1.fc13.x86_64 require

Frustration -- can't find the icon picker application on m system??

2010-06-26 Thread William Case
Hi; What is the name of the little application that pops up when you are trying to pick a new icon in a launcher ? Googled etc. and found a page that only said Fedora has it's own version rather than the gnome version. Another site said it was called assogiate. It's not. Where would I find it

Re: Evolution Update Fails

2010-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 18:30 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The system has informed me via the Update Applet that evolution needs to > be upgraded to 2.30.2-1, but the upgrade fails with these messages: > could not do simulate: empathy-2.30.1.1-1.fc13.x86_64 requires > libedataserver-1.2.

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > A well written greylisting milter will utilize a database to maintain a > list of sending MTAs that have retried. Of course. However, many large sites (including ours, which is only medium sized) have multiple IP addresses that send out mail

/etc/security/console.perms.d/<*>.perms files being ignored

2010-06-26 Thread parishd.list
I am attempting to alter the permissions of /dev/snd and its contents to rw- rw-rw at boot time via a file /etc/security/console.perms.d/99-snd.perms, which contains the following lines: ## =/dev/snd/* /dev/snd 0666 0600 root ## This has worked with previous Fedora installations up to Fedora

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/27/2010 10:42 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> A well written greylisting milter will utilize a database to maintain a >> list of sending MTAs that have retried. >> > Of course. However, many large sites (including ours, which is onl

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 11:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > The folks that "complain" about "delays" are also those that set their > POP/IMAP polling intervals to 1min and would love to set it to 1sec if > they were given the option. I suspect they would have died in the age > of UUCP. immaterial

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/27/2010 11:34 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 11:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> The folks that "complain" about "delays" are also those that set their >> POP/IMAP polling intervals to 1min and would love to set it to 1sec if >> they were given the option. I suspect they w

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Until the next update, or some big problem rears its head... Bob Goodwin: > Update? I assumed it is something I will have to do with a new > Fedora release? Problems happen, all kinds. I just struggle with > them. If I can't fix them I do without a function perhaps ... Yes, I meant system

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 11:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/27/2010 11:34 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 11:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> The folks that "complain" about "delays" are also those that set their > >> POP/IMAP polling intervals to 1min and would love to set

Re: Evolution Update Fails

2010-06-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 18:30 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > The system has informed me via the Update Applet that evolution needs to > > be upgraded to 2.30.2-1, but the upgrade fails with these messages: > > could not do si

Re: A message from the Fedora Board to all of our users

2010-06-26 Thread dexter
On 27 June 2010 02:00, Jon Stanley wrote: > We welcome and encourage the community (that means > YOU!) to participate constructively in these discussions by joining > the list and providing input. > Thanks for the invitation :-) and I'd like to reciprocate. We welcome and encourage the board & co

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