Re: Support for audio on webcams

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/14/2010 08:19 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > This may be related to x86_64 install, but I'm told there's an issue in > 32 bit as well. > > I have a webcam, Logitech laptop model, and I'm trying to capture to > sound and audio. > File a bug report against the kernel and cc hdegoede AT redha

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:45 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so > that a Windows user can access it. I can read the Windows hard drive > just fine. > > What software might I use to automagically split the data into DVD sized > chunks

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 22:35 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > That isn't going to make people very happy. > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1338207/Adobe-Temporarily-Kills-64-Bit-Flash-For-Linux Or are you reading that the wrong way? i.e. Has it left "beta" testing status, for the next p

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 20:35 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > Bzzzt. You just lost developer interest. Which can be countered with: You lose user interest when the other drivers can't do what you need them to. There's plenty of posts about that. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc

Re: Subject: Re: Amazing problem of /boot

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:21 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > Here, after updating the system (from the GUI, > System>Administration--->Software Update), i see in above two > titles of Fedora, and why it is so? but the no. is bracket for two are > different, respectively: > > 'title Fedora (2.6.

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Slightly OT, perhaps, but I find hibernation works fine under Fedora-13. The only minor problem (if you can call it that) is that ssh connections are lost on resumption. Is there any simple way of overcoming this? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Otheim
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 22:35 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > That isn't going to make people very happy. > > > > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1338207/Adobe-Temporarily-Kills-64-Bit-Flash-For-Linux > > Or are you reading that the wrong way

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Michal
On 14/06/2010 12:00, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Slightly OT, perhaps, > but I find hibernation works fine under Fedora-13. > The only minor problem (if you can call it that) > is that ssh connections are lost on resumption. > > Is there any simple way of overcoming this? > Your closing the network

Re: sshd get path to authorized_keys file wrong

2010-06-14 Thread Barry Scott
On Thursday 10 June 2010 20:32:50 Mike Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Barry Scott wrote: > > We are seeing an sshd_config that used to work on f12 failing on f13. > > > > When doing ssh r...@host: > > Jun 10 11:34:32 f12barry sshd[23030]: Failed publickey for root from > > 192

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michal wrote: > On 14/06/2010 12:00, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Slightly OT, perhaps, >> but I find hibernation works fine under Fedora-13. >> The only minor problem (if you can call it that) >> is that ssh connections are lost on resumption. >> >> Is there any simple way of overcoming this? >> >

What is a "forward map" in dhcp?

2010-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
When my son tries to connect to our LAN with his Blackberry, the request is first refused and then accepted. Why is this? --- Jun 13 08:13:50 helen dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:23:7a:7e:a9:4d via eth1 Jun 13 08:13:50 helen dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.2.209 to 00:23:

Re: What is a "forward map" in dhcp?

2010-06-14 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 06/14/2010 01:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > When my son tries to connect to our LAN with his Blackberry, > the request is first refused and then accepted. ... >Unable to add forward map from BLACKBERRY-4A9A.gayleard.com >to : not authorized It is trying to update the DNS server, setti

Re: What is a "forward map" in dhcp?

2010-06-14 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Timothy Murphy wrote: > When my son tries to connect to our LAN with his Blackberry, > the request is first refused and then accepted. > Why is this? > --- > Jun 13 08:13:50 helen dhcpd: > DHCPDISCOVER from 00:23:7a:7e:a9:4d via eth1 > Jun 13 08:13:50 helen dhcpd: >

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:37 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I sort of understood that, > but just wondered if by chance there was a simple way > of getting hibernate to note which connections it was closing, > and try tp re-open them on when on resumption. I'd imagine you'd have to have password-le

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Underwood
On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Sun, 6/13/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > >> That isn't going to make people very >> happy. >> >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1338207/Adobe-Temporarily-Kills-64-Bit-Flash-For-Linux >> > Guess I'll just continue to use 10.0

Re: Hibernate and resume

2010-06-14 Thread Michal
On 14/06/2010 12:37, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Michal wrote: > >> On 14/06/2010 12:00, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Slightly OT, perhaps, >>> but I find hibernation works fine under Fedora-13. >>> The only minor problem (if you can call it that) >>> is that ssh connections are lost on resumption. >>> >

Re: What is a "forward map" in dhcp?

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:39 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > When my son tries to connect to our LAN with his Blackberry, > the request is first refused and then accepted. > Why is this? It doesn't look like it is accepted, the next request is a different thing (not a "forward map"). Though, on the

Subject: Subject: Re: Amazing problem of /boot

2010-06-14 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Larry Brower > To: Community support for Fedora users > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:55:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Amazing problem of /boot > > >> Here, after updating the system (from the GUI, >> System>Administration--->Software Updat

NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Ray Pittigher
When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in use by others over the NFS mount? This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in e

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> No, it's connected through IPP: >> >> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631/printers/Photosmart-C5500-series > > Does "hobbes.localdomain" always resolve to the print server's IP > address?  And does it

Fwd: Problem - Preupgrade to F13 Anaconda Freeze

2010-06-14 Thread Curt Stauffer
I haven't seen any responses to this one, I hope that it made it out to the list ;-{ If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it. -Curt -- Forwarded message -- From: Curt Stauffer Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:30 AM Subject: Problem - Preupgrade to F13 Anaconda Freeze To: Fedora L

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 09:24 AM, Ray Pittigher wrote: > When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in use > by others over the NFS mount? > the lsof(8) will give you this information and a lot more. Most likely you will want to pipe the output through grep(1) -- Jerry Feldman Bos

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
lsof | grep works for me. On 06/14/2010 08:24 AM, Ray Pittigher wrote: > When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in use > by others over the NFS mount? > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are > intended solely for the use of the indiv

Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?

2010-06-14 Thread Linuxguy123
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:54 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under > Linux ? > > I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem > for SSDs ? > > Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ?

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 09:24:51AM -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: > When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in use > by others over the NFS mount? In "classic" NFS this isn't really possible. NFS is stateless, so on the server you can only see momentary reads and writes from

Re: Support for audio on webcams

2010-06-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/14/2010 08:19 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> This may be related to x86_64 install, but I'm told there's an issue in >> 32 bit as well. >> >> I have a webcam, Logitech laptop model, and I'm trying to capture to >> sound and audio. >> >> > > File a bug repor

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, Steve Underwood wrote: > On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > --- On Sun, 6/13/10, Bill Davidsen  > wrote: > > > >    > >> That isn't going to make people very > >> happy. > >> > >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1338207/Adobe-Temporarily-Kills-64-Bi

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Linuxguy123
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 02:25 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:45 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so > > that a Windows user can access it. I can read the Windows hard drive > > just fine. > > > > What

Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Linuxguy123
Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? Firefox, Evolution, etc ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mai

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/14/2010 10:25 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? > > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? > > Thanks > I'm not having any issues with Firefox and don't use Evolution. My big issue is with Rhythmbox, but it's a continuing issue from F12. Sometimes,

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 22:35 -0400, > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > That isn't going to make people very happy. > >  > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1338207/Adobe-Temporarily-Kills-64-Bit-Flash-For-Linux > > Or are you reading that the wrong way?  i.e. H

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 02:25 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:45 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> > I need to back up 20 GB of Windows data from a hard drive onto DVDs so >> > that a Windows user can access it.  I ca

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Underwood
On 06/14/2010 11:20 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Steve Underwood wrote: > > >> On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Patrick >> Bartek wrote: >> >>> --- On Sun, 6/13/10, Bill Davidsen >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> That isn't going to make people very happ

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 06/14/2010 11:31 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/14/2010 10:25 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? >> >> Firefox, Evolution, etc ? >> >> Thanks >> >> > I'm not having any issues with Firefox and don't use Evolution. My big > issue is

Re: Bad hard drive or bad kernels ???

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 10:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 03:00 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> Linuxguy123 wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 23:50

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread M A Young
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 09:24:51AM -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: >> When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in use >> by others over the NFS mount? > > In "classic" NFS this isn't really possible. NFS is stateless, so on > th

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/14/2010 05:25 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? No, it's not just you. I am facing quite some amount of instabilities with F13. > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? I am also facing instabilities with firefox. No idea what is causing them. Symptoms

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? > > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? I use Chromium rather than FF. The only problem is that Java (IcedTea plugin for x86_64) has decided to stop working, but I think FF users are seeing

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Jim
On 06/14/2010 09:52 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >>> No, it's connected through IPP: >>> >>> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631/printers/Photosmart-C5500-series >>> >> Does "hobbes.

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Ray Pittigher
Yes that works on the client side but what about seeing what clients are doing from the server side? On 06/14/2010 10:32 AM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > lsof | grep works for me. > > On 06/14/2010 08:24 AM, Ray Pittigher wrote: >> When running a NFS server on Fedora how can I see what files are in

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
I had a problem with firefox and java. Never really got rid of it, but if I restored the previous firefox sessino when I opened firefox, in about two minutes the machine would stop dead. Top when it died showed nothing useful except that java had the CPU (and a good bit of it). On 06/14/2010

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Ah, I see... That is going to be a problem. One (unsatisfying) way would be to set up shared key ssh, then loop through all hosts running lsof on each host. Not sure what problem you're trying to solve, ... On 06/14/2010 11:25 AM, Ray Pittigher wrote: > Yes that works on the client side but w

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:20 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > In any case, I don't think the "hole" will cause much problems with Linux > based systems. When you read of the panic attacks people are having, it's > usually about Windows systems. Linux is vulnerable too, we should not be so complac

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --test and --disk-start > options were my ideas. > > I'm not sure if I did something wrong but when I tried to use it to > backup my pic

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:25 -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: > Yes that works on the client side but what about seeing what clients > are doing from the server side? [Please don't top-post, on this list. See the Guidelines] AFAIK there is no general solution to this. As has already been noted, NFS sta

Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, even while I am composing. After a short while, it cathes up. My system is an x86_64 sys

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Ga I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added part of the conversation. Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! On 06/14/2010 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:25 -0400, Ray Pittigher wrote: > >> Y

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > Ga > > I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added > part of the conversation. > > Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! > > On 06/14/2010 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> O

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to > obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 > on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, > even while I am composing. After a

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 11:57 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > >> Ga >> >> I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added >> part of the conversation. >> >> Since it appears to be the rules, sure, but, gakk! >> >>

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 12:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 >> on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --test and --disk-start >> options were my ideas. >> >> I'm not sur

Shotwell -- not support .gif and .png?

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Stern
I decided to compare shotwell to f-spot and had it import the files in ~/Photos that had been managed by f-spot. At the end, it failed to import all .gif and .png files. If shotwell is the default image manager for F13, how can it ignore these formats? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:07 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:57 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > On 06/14/2010 12:54 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > > > >> Ga > >> > >> I was wondering why I had to scroll past pages to find the newly added > >> part of the conversation. Ha

upgrading webcam....and pulseaudio

2010-06-14 Thread antonio montagnani
I bought a microsoft VX5000 USB webcam (with integrated mike) replacing an old logitech device with no mike. Now when it is connected at start-up my system doesn't see the audio chip (ICH5), i.e. it is listed in lspci but not available in pulseaudio, therefore I do not have any sound at all (no

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:32 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > By that time, if Adobe is true to form, HTML5 will be fully > implemented and out for two years, and there'll be no need Flash > anymore. ;-) Praise the day! Wishful thinking, because all the pre-existing sites full of Flash will not be c

Re: upgrading webcam....and pulseaudio

2010-06-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:05:05 +0200 antonio montagnani wrote: > If webcam is connected to an USB portafter start-up, system seems to > work properly. > Any suggestion, any bug to file??? I've always had to create a modprobe.d config file to force the order of audio device assignment to be consist

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:07 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > But to answer your question, I have *NEVER* posted this way. You're > fighting over 15 years of training to do it otherwise. Hmm, couldn't have been a real usenet user then... > But, given 15 years, and this being the *ONLY* list (of u

Re: Subject: Subject: Re: Amazing problem of /boot

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 18:33 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > but if we have more kernels, it occupies more space, may be less, > though it may be good for testing purpose but for disk utility is it > okay always to have more than one kernel? I think some meaning is getting lost in translation. Unle

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread bruce
oh my gawd!!! are we doin a top/bottom post flame war again!!! alright.. all who are frmo san fran.. which do you like, top, or bottom!! and what about people who like diagonal posting.. and how about side posting... for those who can't make up their minds... any others that have been left out

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:07 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > > Yeah, just caught that after I hit send. > > But to answer your question, I have *NEVER* posted this way. You're > fighting over 15 years of training to do it otherwise. > > I frankly think such control is a bit Draconian, but it's not my list,

Re: Anyone got sound with Intel ICH10 chipset? (stopped after F13 upgrade)

2010-06-14 Thread Graham TerMarsch
Digging into this further, I'm seeing that "Phonon" is the culprit here... If I use mplayer, rhythmbox, or banshee to pump audio through PulseAudio, it works fine. Amarok (and all of KDE for that matter), when pumping audio through Phonon, gets all botched up. For fun, I tried updating to the

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Actually, I have had a rather pleasant conversation with a gentleman offline. It is folks who post things like this which offer nothing constructive that encourage a flame war. Sometimes if you don't have anything useful to contribute, it's just best, well, not to contribute. On 06/14/2010 01

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 >> on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the s

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I think it has something to do with my wife's laptop but I have no > idea what's going on. I scanned her IP with nmap and it couldn't find > any trace that her laptop is even there, however, all network > connections coming FROM her laptop co

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > Thanks Steve, > but this is currently and has been off forever. > I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), > AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I also have > Thunderbrowse turned on (I thought I had it disa

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 01:43 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > Let's not get into a flame war over this. I belong to and run a number > of listservs going back nearly 20 years. Many lists I am on (or have > been on) have the "though shalt not top post" commandment. There is a > sound reasoning for it. While I do

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:08 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 12:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > >> On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> >> >>> In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to >>> obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbi

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:00 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> Thanks Steve, >> but this is currently and has been off forever. >> I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), >> AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I al

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread bruce
Dale, if your statement was directed to my posting... get a better grip.. i was using the well honed process of SARCASM!!! every so often, on god knows how many forum/threads.. the issue of "correct" posting jumps up... those of us who've been using email since the early 80s no longer really car

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tim wrote: > We're likely to have yet another encumbered format > foisted upon everyone, as everyone knows that everyone uses Windows, > with a few Mac users, all of which will get a licensed player... WebM[1] seems to be the likely candidate. Fedora added support for it last week. [1] http://ww

Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
John Austin wrote: > 3. Does setting the "discard" option do everything that is required to enable > TRIM to do its job with no further action? Yes. > > 4. Is it safe to use the "discard" option yet? I am using ext4 on /boot. btrfs on /. No issues with /boot or /. There were a few mailings[1] a

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I think it has something to do with my wife's laptop but I have no >> idea what's going on. I scanned her IP with nmap and it couldn't find >> any trace that her laptop is even there, however, a

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> > I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I > generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. > The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pain because it > occurs while I am typing. it i

top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
I blame it on lazy people, busy people, unthinking people and T-1 speeds to the home :) In my case, when I do it, it's the last two items :) On 06/14/2010 02:43 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 6/14/10, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? > Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? > > -wolfgang > -- In my case. It is google... It w

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I >> generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. >> The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pai

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:43:25 -0700 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I can't decide if top posting or folks that don't trim the quoted lines > to two or three lines of context are more annoying. What is whith this? > Have we had the invasion of the lazy people? We probably have the invasion of the

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 06/14/2010 09:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to > obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 > on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, > even while I am composing. After a

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> No, it's connected through IPP: > >> > >> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631/printers/Photosmart-C5500-series > > > > Does "hobbes.locald

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? > > Firefox, Evolution, etc ? > > Thanks > I am not seeing any instabilities in Firefox, etc. -- === The pr

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread g
Marvin Kosmal wrote: > In my case. It is google... > > It wants to top post.. I have to fight it.. is google making you top post, or is google putting your cursor at top of quoted so you can trim dead history and reply interspersed? > Maybe there is a setting I haven't seen that will bott

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 06/14/2010 09:19 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 09:25 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> Is it me or are there lots of little instabilities in F13 ? >> >> Firefox, Evolution, etc ? >> >> Thanks >> > > I am not seeing any instabilities in Firefox, etc. > -- > =

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should > not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. there is a storing of message in 'drafts folder' and is set with 'preferences'.

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >>> None of my code ended up in the rewrite but the --te

Re: Which software for backing data up to DVDs ?

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
Should have mentioned, discspan.py already has the changes, I just included the patch file if you want to see what changed. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 6/14/10, g wrote: > Marvin Kosmal wrote: > > >> In my case. It is google... >> >> It wants to top post.. I have to fight it.. > > is google making you top post, or is google putting your cursor at top > of quoted so you can trim dead history and reply interspersed? > > >> Maybe there is a

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 04:24 PM, g wrote: > why changed settings. how would google or any email client know what > you want to reply to? > > i know gmail and thunderbird do not know what i want to reply to, so > i have them set to start at top of quoted message While many email programs, such as T-Bird give

Re: Fedora 12/13 network printer oddness

2010-06-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:52 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tim wrote: >> > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> No, it's connected through IPP: >> >> >> >> ipp://hobbes.localdomain:631

[OT] A questions about Fedora/KVM friendly hardware

2010-06-14 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hello, I was running Fedora's Virt-manager w/ Qemu/Kqemu, after some change in Qemu (no more support Kqemu) i have switched to VMware Player in my laptop/ and VMware Server in my home workstation/server (i have tested Virtualbox too), now i want to buy a new Motherboard/CPU that support Hardwa

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 04:33 PM, g wrote: > Jerry Feldman wrote: > > > >> I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should >> not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. >> > thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. > > there is a storing of m

Re: NFS

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 11:32 -0700, bruce wrote: > are we doin a top/bottom post flame war again!!! No-one has flamed anyone so far, so hopefully that would be a no. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 13:40 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > There is a bar called "More Options" > > Click on that and it brings up all the text and I can scroll to the > bottom.. Hmm, I'm not seeing it. Do you mean the "More Actions" drop-down? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 06/14/2010 04:33 PM, g wrote: >> thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. >> >> there is a storing of message in 'drafts folder' and is set with >> 'preferences'. >> >> > This is true, I didn't think of it. Could also be related to my /home >

Re: top posting flame war (was NFS)

2010-06-14 Thread g
Marvin Kosmal wrote: > So I just fixed my own problem.. only partly. > Don't know why I didn't notice it before.. > > There is a bar called "More Options" who reads all of what is on page until they have need? > Click on that and it brings up all the text and I can scroll to the bottom.. >

Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

2010-06-14 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 14/06/2010 alle 11.35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: > > I use Chromium rather than FF. The only problem is that Java (IcedTea > plugin for x86_64) has decided to stop working, but I think FF users > are seeing the same thing so it's a Java problem. There is a broken symbo

F12: Palmiquist

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Is there any way that I can use palmiquist (hard disk check) to automatically check and report any hard-disk failures? On F11, it was bubble-reported whenever there was a failing HD, but on F12 this does not seem to be the case? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
More fun with Klipper! Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. In OOo, either using the middle mouse button or CTRL + V, what appears are a empty spaces or ^^^ ^ Please don't tell me I'm a ranter. I kno

Re: F12: Palmiquist

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 06/14/2010 03:37 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Is there any way that I can use palmiquist (hard disk check) > to automatically check and report any hard-disk failures? > On F11, it was bubble-reported whenever there was a > failing HD, but on F12 this does not seem to be the case? > > Ok, ne

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