Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-31 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Dave Ihnat writes: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 05:32:03PM +0100, antonio wrote: >> as network is a an extension of an office network, I do not want >> anybody even see that network is extended > > With all due respect, it doesn't matter. The Bad Guys(Tm) *will* see it, > SSID or not. WiFi sca

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-31 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 17:32 +0100, antonio wrote: > as network is a an extension of an office network, I do not want > anybody even see that network is extended That doesn't work, it doesn't do what you think it does. As I'd already pointed out, removing the SSID doesn't hide the network. It'

Re: Hiding SSIDs - Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread bruce
Robert !! Thanks you... All my point was.. >> was, what's the app "supposed" to be doing, and is it correctly doing it! I really don't care what the answer is, and I've got no dog in the fight. Just that whatever the "?" was/is supposed to represent is documented, or is a bug!! The issue of whet

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/28/2014 02:34 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > I am connected to a Picostation as repeater: sometimes laptop is > disconnected and I see a question mark on the top line wireless icon, > and it connects again only if I switch of and then on the wirelss... > in F20 it never happened.Smarthphone

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 05:32:03PM +0100, antonio wrote: > as network is a an extension of an office network, I do not want > anybody even see that network is extended With all due respect, it doesn't matter. The Bad Guys(Tm) *will* see it, SSID or not. WiFi scanning tools return all channel

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread antonio
Tim ha scrito il 30/12/2014 alle 15:47: Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2014, bruce sent: whether or not hiding does any good or not isn't the issue with what antonio was/is presenting.. he;s simply saying/asking if there should be a bug filed in this case, or if seeing a "?" is the correct

Re: Hiding SSIDs - Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:13:18AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Eventhough I wrote the paper on the Myth of hiding SSIDs in '03 and > provided the method for exposing hidden SSIDs, many wireless > professionals still push this as a valuable tool to protect your > networks. You can't kill some

Hiding SSIDs - Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2014 06:54 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 18:13 +0100, antonio wrote: if this behaviour is connected to hidden SSID You're only hurting yourself by hiding it. Seriously, hiding it doesn't do you *any* good. Eventhough I wrote the paper on the Myth of hiding SSIDs in '03 and

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread antonio
bruce ha scrito il 30/12/2014 alle 13:57: whether or not hiding does any good or not isn't the issue with what antonio was/is presenting.. he;s simply saying/asking if there should be a bug filed in this case, or if seeing a "?" is the correct behaviour in the case of there being hidden SSIDs?

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2014, bruce sent: > whether or not hiding does any good or not isn't the issue with what > antonio was/is presenting.. > > he;s simply saying/asking if there should be a bug filed in this case, > or if seeing a "?" is the correct behaviour in the case of there be

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread bruce
whether or not hiding does any good or not isn't the issue with what antonio was/is presenting.. he;s simply saying/asking if there should be a bug filed in this case, or if seeing a "?" is the correct behaviour in the case of there being hidden SSIDs? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Tim wrot

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-30 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 18:13 +0100, antonio wrote: > if this behaviour is connected to hidden SSID You're only hurting yourself by hiding it. Seriously, hiding it doesn't do you *any* good. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.17.7-200.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 17 04:08:31 UTC 2014 i686 A

Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-29 Thread antonio
antonio montagnani ha scrito il 28/12/2014 alle 09:34: I am connected to a Picostation as repeater: sometimes laptop is disconnected and I see a question mark on the top line wireless icon, and it connects again only if I switch of and then on the wirelss... in F20 it never happened.Smarthphone i

wireless is strange

2014-12-28 Thread antonio montagnani
I am connected to a Picostation as repeater: sometimes laptop is disconnected and I see a question mark on the top line wireless icon, and it connects again only if I switch of and then on the wirelss... in F20 it never happened.Smarthphone is always connected Any idea??? -- Antonio M Skype: am