weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tom Horsley writes: > The most reproducible one is claws-mail which always > takes 25 seconds to start, and the delay seems to be > something to do with dbus messages. Here's some > debug-monitor output that shows the delay: 30s is a common timeout for Internet functions, such as DNS. I reme

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:40:50 -0700 stan via users wrote: > The fact that the delay is exactly 30 seconds supports this, as that > sounds like a timeout value that is set. It is definitely a timeout. An strace showed it sitting in a poll() and timing out talking to someone somewhere possibly on dbu

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:25:30 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > If I use virt-manager to tell it to emulate IvyBridge > instead of native cpu, there is no hang! And I've now submitted this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1780965 ___ users maili

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:25:30 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 19:12:02 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Maybe do an 'strace' on the process. > > I've done that, but nothing obvious is going on. However > I now have a definite clue: > > In my fedora 31 virtual machine, th

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 19:12:02 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Maybe do an 'strace' on the process. I've done that, but nothing obvious is going on. However I now have a definite clue: In my fedora 31 virtual machine, the hang happens the same way. If I use virt-manager to tell it to emulate I

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 14:03 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 11:49:41 -0700 > stan via users wrote: > > > What is > > happening on top when the delay happens? > > Nothing I can see. I even created a new virtual machine from scratch, > and it hangs there - I posted another message wi

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 11:49:41 -0700 stan via users wrote: > What is > happening on top when the delay happens? Nothing I can see. I even created a new virtual machine from scratch, and it hangs there - I posted another message with details, but it seems to be the combination of gtk2 and an Intel I9

Re: weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 09:39:52 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > The most reproducible one is claws-mail which always > takes 25 seconds to start, and the delay seems to be > something to do with dbus messages. Here's some > debug-monitor output that shows the delay: > > sig 1575815215.835943 42

weird delay in some apps after moving to new computer

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Horsley
The most reproducible one is claws-mail which always takes 25 seconds to start, and the delay seems to be something to do with dbus messages. Here's some debug-monitor output that shows the delay: sig 1575815215.835943 4294967295 org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBusor