Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/20/2014 03:46 AM, poma wrote: On 19.07.2014 09:52, g wrote: <<>> If you expect the full support whatever that means you better go with the company like System76 and similar, see my apologies poma, maybe i should have marked my reply after "i would tend to agree," with; /;-) an

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 19.07.2014 09:52, g wrote: On 07/19/2014 01:05 PM, poma wrote: On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: <<>> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understated. Ther

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 15:22 -0700, Lists wrote: > I buy laptop with Windows, then buy a second SSD for Linux. When I > want to play a game or take advantage of support, I use the Windows > drive. When I want to get work done, I swap and use the Linux HDD. > Just make sure the laptop has an external

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/20/2014 01:20 AM, Temlakos wrote: <<>> But that scarcely matters. After all, we get the chance to load any OS we want, in any distro, from Fedora to Ubuntu to Gentoo. wow. really? i did not know that. where did you learn that? must be something really new. ((GBWG)) --

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/19/2014 03:52 AM, g wrote: On 07/19/2014 01:05 PM, poma wrote: On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: <<>> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understated. T

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/19/2014 01:05 PM, poma wrote: On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: <<>> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understated. There is no better recommendation t

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Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > > Yes, if anything I've found that no-OS machines are if anything more > > expensive, due to the lack of the "crapware discount". And there are > > utilities you can use to backup up the existing activation, and then do a > > clean install, getting rid of the cr

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:05:39 +0200 poma wrote: > On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: > > > > > > On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: > > <<>> > > > >> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. > >> Come back down to earth. > > > > "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understat

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: <<>> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understated. There is no better recommendation than their own effort, right g-man? :) h

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On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: <<>> Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. "flagrantly overpriced" is flagrantly understated. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@l

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Lists wrote: > I buy laptop with Windows, then buy a second SSD for Linux. When I want to > play a game or take advantage of support, I use the Windows drive. When I > want to get work done, I swap and use the Linux HDD. Just make sure the > laptop has an externall

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 2014-07-16 09:07, Neal Becker wrote: Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows mostly 5 year old info. What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? I have read the thread b

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 05:02 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> My advice is to pick a machine based on your needs and budget and don't worry too much about keeping your cash out of Microsoft's pocket. With Fedora you won't be getting MS news or bing results in the shell or using their app store; that pretty mu

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 12:18:17 + Andre Robatino wrote: > Pete Travis petetravis.com> writes: > > > Yes, my experience is that buying user devices like laptops and desktops > (servers are a different story) > are not cheaper without Windows > preinstalled.  That wasn't the case ~10 years ago w

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

Pete Travis petetravis.com> writes: > Yes, my experience is that buying user devices like laptops and desktops (servers are a different story) > are not cheaper without Windows preinstalled.  That wasn't the case ~10 years ago when I > started asking, and it wasn't the case recently when deployin

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 17.07.2014 08:20, Ranjan Maitra wrote: From Dell, I bought the Dell XPS 13 last year with Ubuntu on it. I am very pleased with it. Not sure if this will qualify as a high-performance for you though. Ranjan On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:07:03 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: I think you will find wh

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

From Dell, I bought the Dell XPS 13 last year with Ubuntu on it. I am very pleased with it. Not sure if this will qualify as a high-performance for you though. Ranjan On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:07:03 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I think you will find what you're looking for at Puget Systems > h

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

I think you will find what you're looking for at Puget Systems http://www.pugetsystems.com/. Not cheap, but they stand behind what they sell. On 07/16/2014 08:07:06 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google > shows > mostly 5 year old info. >

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 01:17 PM, Jack Wallen wrote: > Or system76.com. I purchased a Leopard Extreme desktop from them. > They've been fantastic (and the machine is a beast). Yes, I have one of those, too. It almost ate me. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 7/16/2014 1:01 PM, poma wrote: On 16.07.2014 20:36, Kenneth Marcy wrote: No need to apologize for the subject because technology advances, so the answer changes for the same questions. Vorsprung durch technik. Fahrvergnügen. Ken -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:13:19 +0530 Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > > > and without paying windoze tax? > > > Monetarily you won't save much. Lenovo guys shipped me a Thinkpad without > Windows. Only recommendation I have is to not buy dual-graphic

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 7/16/2014 4:41 PM, Temlakos wrote: So what you're saying is, Microsoft makes no money, or even loses money, on OEM installations, and hopes to make all their money on those who upgrade existing hardware from one version of Windows to another. Or maybe on advertising through the Bing search

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Jul 16, 2014 5:41 PM, "Temlakos" wrote: > > On 07/16/2014 04:17 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2014 9:07 AM, "Neal Becker" wrote: >> > >> > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows >> > mostly 5 year old info. >> > >> > What are some recommendatio

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/17/14 07:41, Temlakos wrote: > And let's see if I further have you straight: nobody's going to get a > significant discount, or indeed even an insignificant discount, by buying a > "bare" machine with no OS installed. I don't know what you consider "significant" but a quick search turns up

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 04:17 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Jul 16, 2014 9:07 AM, "Neal Becker" > wrote: > > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows > mostly 5 year old info. > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Jul 16, 2014 9:07 AM, "Neal Becker" wrote: > > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows > mostly 5 year old info. > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? > > -- > Y

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 16.07.2014 20:36, Kenneth Marcy wrote: No need to apologize for the subject because technology advances, so the answer changes for the same questions. Vorsprung durch technik. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

Thinkpenguin.com has a model that goes to 1920x1080, no windows. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Temlakos wrote: > On 07/16/2014 02:15 PM, Ben wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: >> >> What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop >> that >

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 14:23 -0400, Temlakos wrote: > On 07/16/2014 02:15 PM, Ben wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker > > wrote: > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high > > performance laptop that > > works well on linux, and without

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 7/16/2014 8:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows mostly 5 year old info. No need to apologize for the subject because technology advances, so the answer changes for the same questions. What are some recommendations for a r

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

Quoting Temlakos : On 07/16/2014 02:15 PM, Ben wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker > wrote: What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Surprised no o

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 02:15 PM, Ben wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker > wrote: What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Surprised no one has mentioned z

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? > Surprised no one has mentioned zareason.com. I haven't bought one from them yet, but I'm so tempted ..

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 11:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows > mostly 5 year old info. > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? I have been hap

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 07/16/2014 02:15 PM, Ben wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Neal Becker > wrote: What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Surprised no one has mentioned

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

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Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > and without paying windoze tax? Monetarily you won't save much. Lenovo guys shipped me a Thinkpad without Windows. Only recommendation I have is to not buy dual-graphic-card systems. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger. sudhirkhanger.com https://g

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On 07/16/2014 10:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? I haven't bought any laptops from these guys, but I did buy three desktop machines and have been very satisfied: https:/

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

On 16. 7. 2014 at 11:07:06, Neal Becker wrote: > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows > mostly 5 year old info. > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Just yester

wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows mostly 5 year old info. What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib