Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-08-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 06:45:17PM -0400, bruce wrote: > Hey David.. > > Thanks for the thoughts on this... > > Would you mind posting/pasting what your code/shell scripts are/is.. I'm sure > someone will need something similar in life! Well, I have. And you have regurgitated them below (in you

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
"David A. De Graaf" writes: > Only when the remote machine fails to respond is the nfs umount > command blocked. It then waits for a response that will not and > cannot come. That's what's dumb. I've had this happen to me. I even waited about 20 minutes to see if it would *ever* time out. It

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-08-02 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 06:34:55PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > systemd and autofs/nfs are at war and have been ever since systemd > > appeared. > > > > Specifically, if machine A has an open connection to machine B > > and B goes down or become inaccessible, then A c

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread Niels Kobschaetzki
On 16/07/28 18:52, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 18:43:09 -0400 bruce wrote: But, the whole systemd/dnf stuff... is that really useful, as opposed to the philosophy of some of the other flavors? There is no other flavor. Systemd will assimilate you. Every distro uses it now (as near

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread Rex Dieter
David A. De Graaf wrote: > systemd and autofs/nfs are at war and have been ever since systemd > appeared. > > Specifically, if machine A has an open connection to machine B > and B goes down or become inaccessible, then A cannot shutdown. > A's shutdown sequence hangs, waiting for B to respond to

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread bruce
Hey Tom! So.. If I undertand the overall point. Most linux flavors are more or less moving in the same direction.. Just some a bit faster than others.. Heaven or Hell!! Thanks On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 18:43:09 -0400 > bruce wrote: > > > But, t

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 18:43:09 -0400 bruce wrote: > But, the whole systemd/dnf stuff... is that really useful, as opposed to > the philosophy of some of the other flavors? There is no other flavor. Systemd will assimilate you. Every distro uses it now (as near as I can tell). DNF is totally separat

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread bruce
Hey David.. Thanks for the thoughts on this... Would you mind posting/pasting what your code/shell scripts are/is.. I'm sure someone will need something similar in life! -Peace! On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:26 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 02:53:34PM -0400, Tom Horsley

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread bruce
Hey guys... Not to start a flame war... But I've looked at different linux flavors.. ubuntu/mint/centos/etc.. and I'm thinking of taking the step to centos 7/fed24(or whatever it is...) But, the whole systemd/dnf stuff... is that really useful, as opposed to the philosophy of some of the other f

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 02:53:34PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:37:41 -0400 > David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > Have I overlooked something obvious? Is there a way to make systemd > > perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly? > > If anyone knows h

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/28/2016 11:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:37:41 -0400 > David A. De Graaf wrote: > >> Have I overlooked something obvious? Is there a way to make systemd >> perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly? >> If anyone knows how, I would love to h

Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:37:41 -0400 David A. De Graaf wrote: > Have I overlooked something obvious? Is there a way to make systemd > perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly? > If anyone knows how, I would love to hear it. I can't make systemd itself work, but I've

systemd vs. autofs/nfs

2016-07-28 Thread David A. De Graaf
systemd and autofs/nfs are at war and have been ever since systemd appeared. Specifically, if machine A has an open connection to machine B and B goes down or become inaccessible, then A cannot shutdown. A's shutdown sequence hangs, waiting for B to respond to an unmount command, which will not/ca