Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 13:23 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/19/2012 12:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > if you are upgrading a machine and not take a look > > wwhat services are running / enabled it's time for > > you to learn doing things right > > I've upgraded Fedora several times and never, unti

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread jdow
On 2012/01/19 07:34, Terry Polzin wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: systemctl status spamd.service [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service ntpd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) [root@voyag

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2012 12:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: if you are upgrading a machine and not take a look wwhat services are running / enabled it's time for you to learn doing things right I've upgraded Fedora several times and never, until now, have I had the slightest difficulty with services being di

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.01.2012 21:20, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 01/19/2012 08:12 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >> OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. > > So is turning off rsyslog, but "upgrading" to F16 is known to do that, > sometimes. And, when I reported it as a > bug, the response from the d

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2012 08:12 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. So is turning off rsyslog, but "upgrading" to F16 is known to do that, sometimes. And, when I reported it as a bug, the response from the devs was equivalent to "We don't care." One would

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Ingason
2012-01-19 17:35, Terry Polzin skrev: On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 16:28 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote: OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Brand spa

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/01/12 16:35, Terry Polzin wrote: -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Brand spankey new install on a new machine. I guess this systemctl/systemd stuff takes some getting used to. rpm -q chrony -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 16:28 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote: > > > > > OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. > > > > Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15 > > > -- > Regards, > > Frank Murphy > UTF_8 Encoded Brand spankey new in

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/01/12 16:12, Terry Polzin wrote: OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. Was F16 a clean install or upgrade from F<=15 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.01.2012 17:12, schrieb Terry Polzin: >> ntpd.service is provided by the ntp package, which you do not have >> installed. >> >> yum provides "*/ntpd.service" would have told you that. >> >> You need: >> >> yum install ntp >> >> >> ntpdate is not the same thing. >> >> >> - Mike >> > OK to nt

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Terry Polzin said: > OK to ntpd wans't installed by default, that's just silly. RTFRelease notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html#id2975208 3.8.2. Chrony Fedora 16 uses Chrony as the default Ne

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 10:45 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service > > ntpd.service > > Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) > > Active: inactive (dead) > > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service > > spamd.servic

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/01/12 15:53, Aaron Konstam wrote: Before you do a status command you need an enable command, at least. i.e: systemctl enable ntpd.service and then maybe: systemctl start ntpd.service not correct. systemctl staus foo.service will also return if a service is disabled. -- Regards, F

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/01/12 15:34, Terry Polzin wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: systemctl status spamd.service [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service ntpd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) [root@voyager

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 10:34 -0500, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > systemctl status spamd.service > > > > > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service > ntpd.service > Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) > Active

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service ntpd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service spamd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: in

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > systemctl status spamd.service > > [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service ntpd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service s

Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/01/12 14:56, Terry Polzin wrote: Come on, NTP doesn't run systemd says it's failed? Where are the error messages. no rpoblems with ntp here. try: systemctl status ntpd.service Same thing with spamd (spamassassin). Sorry, don' use it, but maybe: systemctl status spamd.service -- Reg

systemd broken for key servcies in F16

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Polzin
Come on, NTP doesn't run systemd says it's failed? Where are the error messages. Same thing with spamd (spamassassin). Major failure of the developers here, maybe we need to S-L-O-W down the release process. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr