Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-04-29 Thread Andre Robatino
I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 for my original problem (involving non-DE logins) and it was indeed fixed with the latest systemd updates in both F37 and F38. I know other people have reported it happening in GNOME but have never seen it personally. There are closed b

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-04-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 13:37:46 -, Andre Robatino wrote: > I have 3 machines with clean F37 installs. Dunno yet whether it's also F37 or just F38, but here on F38 even gnome-terminal is getting killed when running a simple tar command in it that works on creating a ~20 GB archive. __

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
Thanks. I confirmed on the affected machine that immediately after removing systemd-oomd-defaults, it was still monitoring the same CGroups, but after rebooting, it was monitoring none, even though systemd-oomd was still enabled and running. ___ users

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 17:33:42 + "Andre Robatino" wrote: > I just tried removing systemd-oomd-defaults and it's still possible to run > systemd-oomd so I was wrong in thinking that would prevent it. Right: systemd-oomd-defaults only configures systemd-oomd. rpm -ql --scripts systemd-

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
I've heard that, but for me, with limited RAM, both DNF transactions and an rsync of a very large file fail in multiuser (by causing logout while they're running) while they both succeed in GNOME on the same machine. ___ users mailing list -- users@list

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Felix Miata
Andre Robatino composed on 2023-03-12 15:58 (UTC): > BTW, I did notice that the problem was gone during the time that systemd-oomd > wasn't running, so that's definitely the cause. Unfortunately, the mask > command alone isn't enough to prevent it from running, I'd have to either > remove syste

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
I just tried removing systemd-oomd-defaults and it's still possible to run systemd-oomd so I was wrong in thinking that would prevent it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproj

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:38 AM Andre Robatino wrote: > > I have 3 machines with clean F37 installs. One of the F37 machines has 4GB of > RAM, and I maintain it as a backup and normally only log in via ssh and do > dnf updates via command line. In the last few weeks this has become extremely >

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 15:47:48 - "Andre Robatino" wrote: > Does your machine have 4GB or less of RAM? If you have more, it may > be much less likely to trigger. I just verified that when I log into Yeah, 16 GB. > GNOME on the machine in question, an rsync of a single large file > that never w

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
I've heard dnf uses a lot of memory, but in my 2GB F38 VM, I can run a large DNF transaction with no problem when logged into GNOME. On 4GB F37 bare metal, in multiuser, even updating one letter at a time isn't enough, even "dnf check" can fail. I read somewhere that GNOME and KDE are the only t

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Barry
> On 12 Mar 2023, at 15:58, Andre Robatino wrote: > > BTW, I did notice that the problem was gone during the time that > systemd-oomd wasn't running, so that's definitely the cause. Unfortunately, > the mask command alone isn't enough to prevent it from running, I'd have to > either remove

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
BTW, I did notice that the problem was gone during the time that systemd-oomd wasn't running, so that's definitely the cause. Unfortunately, the mask command alone isn't enough to prevent it from running, I'd have to either remove systemd-oomd-defaults or edit some config files. And this really

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
Does your machine have 4GB or less of RAM? If you have more, it may be much less likely to trigger. I just verified that when I log into GNOME on the machine in question, an rsync of a single large file that never works when done remotely works fine, it only fails when attempted from a non-DE lo

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 13:37:46 - "Andre Robatino" wrote: > I have 3 machines with clean F37 installs. One of the F37 machines > has 4GB of RAM, and I maintain it as a backup and normally only log > in via ssh and do dnf updates via command line. In the last few weeks > this has become extremely

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
It's not just ssh. It happens even if I boot in multiuser and log in via the console, so any non-DE login is affected. Sometimes, I can't even run a simple "dnf check" command (after having a previous transaction aborted by a logout) without being logged out again. And the free command indicates

Re: systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 10:38 AM Andre Robatino wrote: > I have 3 machines with clean F37 installs. One of the F37 machines has 4GB > of RAM, and I maintain it as a backup and normally only log in via ssh and > do dnf updates via command line. In the last few weeks this has become > extremely dif

systemd-oomd insanely aggressive with non-DE logins

2023-03-12 Thread Andre Robatino
I have 3 machines with clean F37 installs. One of the F37 machines has 4GB of RAM, and I maintain it as a backup and normally only log in via ssh and do dnf updates via command line. In the last few weeks this has become extremely difficult to do due to being automatically logged out, presumably