Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > For the umteenth time, I'm wondering if it is time >> to give up KMail ... > I stopped wondering that over 10 years ago, even though I'm a KDE user. As KMail has stopped working for me for outgoing mail, I thought I'd try Thunderbird and Evolution. This has made me

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 23:36 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > if you need to run > > pre-release F24 for some reason, you've defined yourself as a > > tester so > > reporting problems in the right place is what you're expected to > > do. > I am running F24 (beta)

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/25/2016 03:43 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Samuel Sieb wrote: When I try to send email I get the warning "Failed to transmit message", and journalctl has the entry "sendmail.service: PID file /run/sendmail.pid not readable (yet?) after start: No such file or directory". My first sugges

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 01:26:49PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/25/2016 05:08 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, > >and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. > >When I try to send email I get the warning "Failed to transmit message", > >and journalctl has the en

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Samuel Sieb wrote: >> When I try to send email I get the warning "Failed to transmit message", >> and journalctl has the entry >> "sendmail.service: PID file /run/sendmail.pid not readable (yet?) >> after start: No such file or directory". > My first suggestion is to run postfix instead. :-)

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > if you need to run > pre-release F24 for some reason, you've defined yourself as a tester so > reporting problems in the right place is what you're expected to do. I am running F24 (beta) because plasma kept crashing in F23, and I found it didn't crash in F24. I certa

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 22:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > For the umteenth time, I'm wondering if it is time > to give up KMail ... I stopped wondering that over 10 years ago, even though I'm a KDE user. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tom Horsley wrote: >> I would have hoped that someone who can play with systemd >> in a sensible way might be able to suggest a solution. > But for a (possibly) useful suggesting, you might try > my technique for working around utter failures in systemd > (which always seem to have something to d

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/25/2016 05:08 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. When I try to send email I get the warning "Failed to transmit message", and journalctl has the entry "sendmail.service: PID file /run/sendmail.pid not readable (yet?) a

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 19:09 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, > >> and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. > >  > > Then you're on the wrong mailing list. For general F24 issues, use > the > > Fedora Test list (F24 isn't releas

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 25 May 2016 19:09:02 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > I would have hoped that someone who can play with systemd > in a sensible way might be able to suggest a solution. I believe you have just defined the empty set :-). But for a (possibly) useful suggesting, you might try my technique for

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, >> and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. > > Then you're on the wrong mailing list. For general F24 issues, use the > Fedora Test list (F24 isn't released yet). For KDE issues the Fedora > KDE list deals with both current and

Re: systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 13:08 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, > and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. Then you're on the wrong mailing list. For general F24 issues, use the Fedora Test list (F24 isn't released yet). For KDE issues the Fedora KDE list deals wi

systemd/sendmail problem - seeking help!

2016-05-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm running Fedora-24(beta)/KDE, and sendmail/email (through KMail) is failing. When I try to send email I get the warning "Failed to transmit message", and journalctl has the entry "sendmail.service: PID file /run/sendmail.pid not readable (yet?) after start: No such file or directory". I've