Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-12-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/09/2013 11:17 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > | From: Daniel J Walsh > > | On 12/08/2013 01:11 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > > | > Fedora could not > mount | > the Ubuntu partition for exa

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-12-09 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Daniel J Walsh | On 12/08/2013 01:11 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | > Fedora could not mount | > the Ubuntu partition for examination because it wasn't SELinux labelled. | > Of course requiring a Ubuntu partition to be labelled for Fe

Re: [GW-C] Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-12-09 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2013 01:11 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > | From: Joe Zeff > > | On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: | > For some reason, Ubuntu > does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk | > each time I update > ubuntu kernel. | | How do y

Re: [GW-C] Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-12-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Joe Zeff | On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: | > For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk | > each time I update ubuntu kernel. | | How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel on an unmounted partition? It is supposed to find it. There is a bug i

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
> On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > > >> On Nov 28, 2013 1:09 PM, "Chris Murphy" wrote: >> >>> On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Give a look to this proposal: >>> > >>> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ >

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-29 Thread Javier Perez
Shouldn't this kind of propios al be written as a RFC # thingie? Like The TCP pigeon network... On Nov 28, 2013 1:09 PM, "Chris Murphy" wrote: > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine > wrote: > > > Give a look to this proposal: > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/Bo

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > Give a look to this proposal: > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ Yeah I mentioned it about 23 emails back in this thread. The most useful aspect of that doc is the admission that there's a problem. As for

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-28 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
Give a look to this proposal: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ -- Juan Orti GPG Key: DEEBD08B - http://jorti.fedorapeople.org/pubkey.asc Blog: https://apuntesderoot.wordpress.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 27, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> It can't be used if /boot is on XFS or LVM or md RAID, all of which lack >> boot loader padding areas, so fewer configurations are supported. >> > > Okay. I don't want to put separate /boot partitions on XFS, LVM or RAID. > Certainly no

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 11/27/2013 04:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >>> On 11/26/2013 11:56 PM, poma wrote: On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: > That's because your setup is wron

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Javier Perez wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: >> >> In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the >> SDD. >> >> My question is, can I share the /boot parti

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Javier Perez wrote: > > For some reason, Fedora seems to find the kernels of the Ubuntu partitions > each time I update the Fedora Kernel. I do not have them explicitly mounted > as far as I remember. I'd have to check next time I boot in Fedora. Probably > they ar

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/27/2013 09:56 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:02:33 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk each time I update ubuntu kernel. How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:32 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > Well it's not a good recommendation to do what is explicitly not recommended > by GRUB devs. grub-install spits out a warning if you try to do this, by the > way. It requires the user pass --force for it to work. > No problem. So far I c

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:02:33 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk > > each time I update ubuntu kernel. > > How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel on an unmounted partition? You may be

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/27/2013 04:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/26/2013 11:56 PM, poma wrote: On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: That's because your setup is wrong. If I were you, I would install a bootloader into the boot sector of each of yo

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: >> >> In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the SDD. >> My question is, can I share the /boot

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > . It's better to use extlinux for this use case though. > > I will look into it. Although what I found out at first did not look that > much promising. Will this mean that I have to replace grub by extlinux? When I say "this use case" I'm not

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Javier Perez
After skimming through the manual think I like the "configfile" method. I will have to read some more. Thanks!!! On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On 11/26/2013 11:56 PM, poma wrote: > >> On 26.11.2013 23:18, Mic

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Javier Perez
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > > In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the > SDD. > My question is, can I share the /boot partition between Fedora and Ubuntu? > both are using Grub2. > >

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Javier Perez
. It's better to use extlinux for this use case though. I will look into it. Although what I found out at first did not look that much promising. Will this mean that I have to replace grub by extlinux? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Javier Perez
For some reason, Fedora seems to find the kernels of the Ubuntu partitions each time I update the Fedora Kernel. I do not have them explicitly mounted as far as I remember. I'd have to check next time I boot in Fedora. Probably they are on /media On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 11/26/2013 11:56 PM, poma wrote: >> On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >>> That's because your setup is wrong. If I were you, I would install a >>> bootloader into the boot sector of each of your /boot partitions and >>> chain

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/27/2013 12:02 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk each time I update ubuntu kernel. How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel on an unmounted partition? Well, "expect" is the wording.

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/26/2013 11:56 PM, poma wrote: On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: That's because your setup is wrong. If I were you, I would install a bootloader into the boot sector of each of your /boot partitions and chainload them from your MBR. Are you kidding? I guess, he isn't. It's w

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Steven Stern
On 11/26/2013 04:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > Hi > I need some advice here. > I am running a triple-boot system (Windows 2K, Fedora 19, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS). > It has three HDDs, one for each OS. (Windows, Fedora, Ubuntu). > I am planning to upgrade this system for Christmas. Windows will go away > an

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: >> For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk >> each time I update ubuntu kernel. > > How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel on an unmounted partition? Neither Windows n

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2013 02:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: For some reason, Ubuntu does not find out Fedora unless I mount the disk each time I update ubuntu kernel. How do you expect Ubuntu to find a kernel on an unmounted partition? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread poma
On 26.11.2013 23:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: > That's because your setup is wrong. If I were you, I would install a > bootloader into the boot sector of each of your /boot partitions and > chainload them from your MBR. Are you kidding? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:00:35 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > >> In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the SDD. >> My question is, can I share the /boot partition between Fedora and Ubuntu? >> both are using Grub2.

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the SDD. > My question is, can I share the /boot partition between Fedora and Ubuntu? > both are using Grub2. Possibly because Ubuntu calls GRUB2 grub, while Fedora calls it

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:00:35 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > In theory, Ubuntu and Fedora will have their own partitions inside the SDD. > My question is, can I share the /boot partition between Fedora and Ubuntu? > both are using Grub2. Right now I have two /boot partitions (one on each > HDD) and i

sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-26 Thread Javier Perez
Hi I need some advice here. I am running a triple-boot system (Windows 2K, Fedora 19, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS). It has three HDDs, one for each OS. (Windows, Fedora, Ubuntu). I am planning to upgrade this system for Christmas. Windows will go away and I will only run it virtualized. I have more than a yea