Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-14 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:49:58 -0600 home user wrote: > [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ su - > [root@localhost-live ~]# mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sysimage > mount: /mnt/sysimage: mount point does not exist. > [root@localhost-live ~]# > > I do not know how to determine what to use as the second argument.

Re: prep. for upgrade. [SOLVED]

2020-03-14 Thread home user
(On 3/13/20 6:59 PM, Samuel wrote) > In general, it's better to use "sudo -i" instead. > "su" requires you to know the root password which > is usually not even set. "sudo" uses your user password. > > sudo -i > mount /dev/sda6 /mnt > chroot /mnt > journalctl > less /var/log/dnf almost... [liveus

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> it's entirely possible that some motherboards can't boot from some >> USB connectors at all, and some could be user-configured that way home user: > In my case, I think the problem is trying to boot from the USB-3 > ports, not writing to the USB-3 port. Just out of curiosity, have you be

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/13/20 5:49 PM, home user wrote: This might be easier if we make this more concrete.  So let's suppose I want to do "journalctl" or "less /var/log/dnf" After booting up the live image and doing the "su -", what do I do? In general, it's better to use "sudo -i" instead. "su" requires you t

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread home user
(On 3/13/20 2:44 PM, Samuel wrote) > It opens up the iso and puts the files... ok.  Now I understand.  Thank-you, Samuel. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora C

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread home user
(On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 12:20 PM, Stan wrote) > So, you have to mount the installed image someplace, and > then either cd there or chroot there, in order to do > anything to the installed OS. I vaguely recall that > /mnt/sysimage used to be used for this automatically. e.g. > mount /dev/sd1 /mnt/sysi

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/13/20 9:49 AM, home user wrote: I used mediawriter.  I don't see how simply using dd could work.  I see that, using mediawriter puts only one file into my Downloads directory, but 5 top-level directories end up on my stick (was new/empty beforehand).  That suggests that mediawriter did mor

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:49:46 -0600 home user wrote: > Tried it.  After booting up off the stick, I had to do "su -" to do > anything "rooty".  But I notice that even then, I could not see much > of anything in the workstation itself.  For example, whether I do a > journalctl or use the logs too

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread home user
(On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 6:22 PM, I wrote) > Tomorrow, I'll stick it to my workstation again, > and try to do something "rooty", and report. Tried it.  After booting up off the stick, I had to do "su -" to do anything "rooty".  But I notice that even then, I could not see much of anything in the

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-13 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 18:22 -0600, home user wrote: > a vague memory that on my work station, booting from a USB stick > only works from one or two specific ports, which take USB-2 (not USB- > 3) sticks. So I re-did the mediawriter, this time writing the > download to a USB-2 stick. Then I put th

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-12 Thread home user
(On 03/11/2020 3:59 PM, I wrote) > > Actually, I just noticed there's a dropdown... > I missed that.  ...  I'll try that tomorrow afternoon > after the weekly patches.  That's probably what I'm looking for. The first few tries failed.  In two cases, the system didn't even shut down properly aft

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Tim via users
Just a comment: If you don't put a blank line between your quotes and your replies, they're joined together, looking like one big quote. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automaticall

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(On 2020-03-12 3:25 PM, Ed wrote) > ...I don't even recall if a real reason was determined for your particular issue with t-bird. Not that I know of.  My best guess: The f29->f30 upgrade included the Thunderbird full version upgrade.  I think Fedora held up the Thunderbird upgrade (did not incl

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/11/20 2:59 PM, home user wrote: > (dnf upgrade *dnf* systemd* *repos *release) The instructions advise something similar: doing full patches (dnf --refresh upgrade) just before doing the upgrade. That's what I do.  I'm curious: is what you do significantly different? I'm just trying to

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(On 3/11/20 2:43 P.M., Samuel wrote) > Why is that necessary? In the same WARNING block that advises"As a precaution, download the Fedora Workstation Live image in the event something goes wrong

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-03-12 03:24, home user wrote: > I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do before > upgrading to prevent trouble.  For example, I don't recall the f30 release > notes telling me to back up each user's .thunderbird before doing the  > upgrade. That is because

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/11/20 12:24 PM, home user wrote: (see the upgrade instructions) I did that before opening this thread: > I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. > I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. (release notes) I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do bef

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(see the upgrade instructions) I did that before opening this thread: > I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. > I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. (release notes) I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do before upgrading to prevent trouble.  For ex

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 2020-03-11 at 20:05:21 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-03-11 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I tend to jump in within a few days > > of release, given that a lot of testing has already happened by then. > > +1 > > And, I always review... > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-doc

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-03-11 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I tend to jump in within a few days > of release, given that a lot of testing has already happened by then. +1 And, I always review... https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ -- The key to getting good answers is to

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ger van Dijck
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 20:58:03 +0100, home user wrote: stand-alone home workstation; f30; dual-boot (with windows-7); Gnome (mainly). I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. I know that beforehand, * I should do a back-up, and * that I

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 19:31 -0600, home user wrote: > (On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 6:56 PM, Patrick wrote) > > ...The recommended way to upgrade is with dnf, ... > That's how I do it, just as the on-line instructions say. I'm not doing > a new installation. Then why do you say you'll be downloading a

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-10 Thread home user
(On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 6:56 PM, Patrick wrote) > ...The recommended way to upgrade is with dnf, ... That's how I do it, just as the on-line instructions say.  I'm not doing a new installation. > I think you're mistaken. ... I hope you're correct!  What I originally said was merely a personal i

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 13:58 -0600, home user wrote: > I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. I looked thru the > instructions for the upgrade. I know that beforehand, > * I should do a back-up, and > * that I should download the Fedora Workstation Live image to a USB stick. Sounds like you'

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-10 Thread sixpack13
On 10.03.20 20:58, home user wrote: stand-alone home workstation; f30; dual-boot (with windows-7); Gnome (mainly). I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. ... just wait 11 days further, go for F32 and have more fun No ? -- sixpack13 ___ users

prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-10 Thread home user
stand-alone home workstation; f30; dual-boot (with windows-7); Gnome (mainly). I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. I know that beforehand, * I should do a back-up, and * that I should download the Fedora Workstation Live image to a USB s