Re: philosophy

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:58:53PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > >> I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a > >> couple of days to have the printing service working on a fresh fc23 > >> install. >

Re: philosophy

On 03/25/2016 10:26 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Port 631 only needs to be opened for _networked_ printers--not local printers. While I agree that most people use networked printers I was going to argue this point and then I remembered that the vast majority of computer use is in business, where y

Re: philosophy

On 03/25/2016 02:38 AM, François Patte wrote: Le 24/03/2016 17:01, Christopher a écrit : On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:06 PM Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte > mailto

Re: philosophy

Le 24/03/2016 17:01, Christopher a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:06 PM Rick Stevens > wrote: > > On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte > >

Re: philosophy

On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 16:01 +, Christopher wrote: > I certainly wouldn't want any package to automatically open any ports > when I install or start a service. I lean towards the opposite. If I'm installing a server, I want to actually use it. So, if the firewall needs modifying, it makes sen

Re: philosophy

Le 24/03/2016 23:24, Matthew Miller a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, François Patte wrote: >> I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a >> couple of days to have the printing service working on a fresh fc23 >> install. > > What Fedora 23 edition

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a > couple of days to have the printing service working on a fresh fc23 > install. What Fedora 23 edition or spin did you use? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Proj

Re: philosophy

On 03/24/2016 09:54 AM, George N. White III wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte mailto:francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.

Re: philosophy

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte >> > > wrote: >> >> Bonsoir, >> >> I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I h

Re: philosophy

I'm pretty sure this actually gets taken care of for you by system-config-printer or the gnome control center printer pref. It's been a long time since I setup a printer, but I think it asks you if you wish to modify your firewall and does so if you approve? kevin pgp8RLgoMtgFz.pgp Description

Re: philosophy

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:06 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte > > > > wrote: > [snip] > This is a security issue. Automatically opening your firewall to per

Re: philosophy

On 03/23/2016 04:31 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte mailto:francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr>> wrote: Bonsoir, I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a couple of days to have the printing service worki

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM, François Patte < francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote: > Bonsoir, > > I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a > couple of days to have the printing service working on a fresh fc23 > install. > > 1- cups-browser.service is not

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Bonsoir, I am wondering what is in mind of packagers I have just fought for a couple of days to have the printing service working on a fresh fc23 install. 1- cups-browser.service is not enabled by default. cups.service is enabled but you cannot add printers. ok! With a little work, you can f

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On 06/15/2011 08:23 PM, Tim wrote: > Not everything will fit on the DVD, so you install extras, afterwards. > > Gnome reckons you don't need to configure it to death, so many things > are preset, and customisation requires fiddling under the hood. > I suspect that these two are the main reasons.

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 15:18 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I don't want to start Yet Another Flame War, Yet, he asks the question that's gonna do it... ;-) > but does anybody know how or why such seemingly-obvious tools were > left out? Was it just a case of "so many programs, so little time?" Hasn'

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On 06/15/2011 03:02 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > You are not missing anything, gnome 3 is missing a lot of things! > Certainly proper configuration tools. And proper documentation to > explain the 'inner workings'. I don't want to start Yet Another Flame War, but does anybody know how or why s

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:37:24 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > Only a very minimal set of keys can be displayed to be manipulated in > dconf-editor. The ones that gconf-editor shows that actually control > things like mice and windows focus I can not find in dconf-editor. Yea, things definitely appear

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:37:24PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Now I am really confused. Both gconf-editor and dconf-editor come up > with the alias Configuration Editor, so I assume only one of them can > show up in the menu of applications. dconf-editor does not show up even > if gconf is not

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

what is in the default installation in the desktop, is the > decision of the desktop team members. If you want to ask them, post to > the desktop mailing list in Fedora > > Rahul > I understand that the desktop team controls what is installed with the desktop. I was hopi

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

On 06/15/2011 05:14 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > But first don't you mean gconf-editor rather than dconf-editor? The > latter when installed does not show up in the menus of Gnome3 and seems > to me rather obscure to use. At least I can't figure out how to use it. dconf / gsettings is the replacemen

A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

GNOME. It is a extra (essentially, third > party) utility for tweaking things which are not regular preferences via > the control panel. It is merely a more accessible frontend to gsettings > than dconf-editor is. This tool and extensions won't be installed by > default. >