On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> The method that I suggested is right
>
> There's no "wrong" or "right". It's just one way to do it (not mine).
> But of course, it can be the way for others. It's perfectly fine to build a
> kernel by using rpm
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 13:25 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to
> see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to
> run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to
> invest the time and eff
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:56:00 +0530
Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>
> What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a
> while and let it update a few kernel versions?
Well, for example, a kernel update might be due to some new severe
security exploit, and the old kernel might be vuln
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Paul Cartwright
wrote:
> is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
> latest kernel without rebooting?
>
What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a while
and let it update a few kernel versions?
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On 22.07.2014, Joe Zeff wrote:
> If you really need to put it on a spare partition, you can always move
> everything there from /usr/src and then mount that partition at /usr/src and
> go from there.
And don't forget to take a look into /lib/modules and update the
(now) incorrect symlinks to the
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel??
If you need to: the root directory of the kernel source.
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On 07/21/2014 01:26 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
you say to put it in /usr/src. Can I put it in a spare partition that
has more space?? does it need to be in /usr/src??
You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
expects it to be in /usr/sr
On 07/21/2014 04:26 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
> expects it to be in /usr/src, you can create a symlink.
what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel??
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On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
> The method that I suggested is right
There's no "wrong" or "right". It's just one way to do it (not mine).
But of course, it can be the way for others. It's perfectly fine to build a
kernel by using rpm an manage it using yum, but it's not what I
prefer.
> because
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> you say to put it in /usr/src. Can I put it in a spare partition that
> has more space?? does it need to be in /usr/src??
You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
expects it to be in /usr/src, you can create a symlink.
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 07/21/2014 03:19 PM, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You'd still be able to use your config - the first step 5.
>>
>> The method that I suggested is right because (and I made a mistake
>> earlier and shouldn't have suggested that you use rpm) you can
On 07/21/2014 03:19 PM, Tom H wrote:
> You'd still be able to use your config - the first step 5.
>
> The method that I suggested is right because (and I made a mistake
> earlier and shouldn't have suggested that you use rpm) you can install
> your kernel with "yum install ..." and remove it with "
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
>
>> You'd be better off replacing the second step 5 by "make rpm-pkg" and
>> the last step 5 and step 6 by "rpm -i ...".
>
> No, I wouldn't. My .config is highly customized, and the way I
> described just fits my ne
On 07/21/2014 02:47 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>> my / file system ran out of space. I had 5.8Gb free before I started this..
> Your root partition is way too small for kernel development.
that would be something to take into consideration... I thought 5.8Gb of
free space is PLENTY..
you say to put it
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> my / file system ran out of space. I had 5.8Gb free before I started this..
Your root partition is way too small for kernel development.
[root@kiera src]# du -ch linux-3.15.6-rc1
[]
4.1G total
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On 21.07.2014, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> What is the purpose of installing a non-Fedora kernel, in your case?
Coming from SLS, slackware and yggdrasil way back in time, it's how it
has been for me all the time. I have my configs, scripts and so
on. I kept them over time, and they just work :-)
On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
> You'd be better off replacing the second step 5 by "make rpm-pkg" and
> the last step 5 and step 6 by "rpm -i ...".
No, I wouldn't. My .config is highly customized, and the way I
described just fits my needs perfectly. I'm quite aware of the
possibility to build a k
On 07/21/2014 02:12 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>> > Do you have any .config item worth mentioning, something you recommend or
>> > vice versa?
> Nope. Every config is different, and so is the machine which it will
> be installed on, and the preferences of the one who uses it. It's a
> learning experie
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
> Do you have any .config item worth mentioning, something you recommend or
> vice versa?
Nope. Every config is different, and so is the machine which it will
be installed on, and the preferences of the one who uses it. It's a
learning experience for anybody who's new
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:37:58 +0200
Heinz Diehl wrote:
> Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many
> years):
>
[snip]
>
> In short: a simple kernel compile/install. Your kernel will live
> peacefully alongside with your distribution kernel(s).
What is the purpose of in
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
>
>> Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
>> when you offer Heinz. ;)
>
> Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
>
> 1. Download a kernel f
On 21.07.2014 18:37, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
when you offer Heinz. ;)
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
1. Download a kernel from kernel.org
2. Extract
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
> Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
> when you offer Heinz. ;)
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
1. Download a kernel from kernel.org
2. Extract it into /usr/src
3. Apply some minor p
On 21.07.2014 15:35, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel.
I've never used any Fedora kernel
On 21.07.2014 12:41, Paul Cartwright wrote:
...
in less than 10 days..
Such rapid upgrades are actually commendable! :)
This is the very reason why people drive Ferrari.
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On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
> kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
> rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel.
I've never used any Fedora kernel any longer than for the first
install
On 07/21/2014 07:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
>> > just do init 6 from command line.. It just seems that all I have been
>> > doing lately is rebooting, and setting up all the windows I keep open..
>> > 3 kernels in 10 d
On 07/21/2014 08:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
>> kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
>> rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
>
> We'll you could keep running the older kernel. De
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 06:41:05 -0400,
Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
We'll you could keep running the older k
On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 07:29 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 07/21/2014 07:19 AM, Alchemist wrote:
> >
> >
> > You can do fast-reboot by using kexec
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel/kexec
> >
> thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
> just do init 6 from
On 07/21/2014 07:19 AM, Alchemist wrote:
>
>
> You can do fast-reboot by using kexec
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel/kexec
>
thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
just do init 6 from command line.. It just seems that all I have been
doing lately is rebooti
2014-07-21 13:41 GMT+03:00 Paul Cartwright :
> Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
> kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
> rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
> uname -a
> Linux pauls-server 3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1
On 21/07/14 07:11 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Digimer wrote:
is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting???
Fedora is not a server OS. It's a bleeding-edge distro and as such,
changes often. If you want stability, use RHEL/CentOS. Far
Digimer wrote:
>> is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
>> latest kernel without rebooting???
> Fedora is not a server OS. It's a bleeding-edge distro and as such,
> changes often. If you want stability, use RHEL/CentOS. Far fewer kernel
> updates there.
As a mat
Paul Cartwright writes:
is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting???
No. The only way to switch kernels is a reboot.
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On 21/07/14 06:41 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
uname -a
Linux pauls-server 3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up & running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
uname -a
Linux pauls-server 3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 02:36:27 UTC
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