Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-26 Thread g
On 03/26/14 12:28, Ahmad Samir wrote: <<<>>> <<>> <> -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fe

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-26 Thread g
On 03/26/14 03:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:36 +0600, g wrote: and so, be prepared to hear from some gmail and cell phone users who will deny that such can easily be done, as well as replying interspersed, therefore they do not. :-) IN Gmail it's trivially easy. Hi

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 March 2014 21:27, g wrote: > > > On 03/25/14 23:17, Ahmad Samir wrote: >> >> On 25 March 2014 18:00, g wrote: > > <<>> > >>> maybe in your experiences, but mine has been just to rename > >>> users's ".mozilla" directory and when firefox was called, >>> firefox created a new ".mozilla" direc

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:36 +0600, g wrote: > and so, be prepared to hear from some gmail and cell phone > users who will deny that such can easily be done, as well > as replying interspersed, therefore they do not. :-) IN Gmail it's trivially easy. Hint: select the relevant part before hitting Re

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread g
On 03/26/14 01:43, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/25/2014 12:27 PM, g wrote: in case you are not aware, "dead wood" means portions of a post that are not related or reference to what one is replying to. I'd like to add to that the fact that other poster's signatures, including anything added by the l

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2014 12:27 PM, g wrote: in case you are not aware, "dead wood" means portions of a post that are not related or reference to what one is replying to. I'd like to add to that the fact that other poster's signatures, including anything added by the list software, is always deadwood and

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread g
On 03/25/14 23:17, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 25 March 2014 18:00, g wrote: <<>> maybe in your experiences, but mine has been just to rename >> users's ".mozilla" directory and when firefox was called, >> firefox created a new ".mozilla" directory. A Firefox profile directory is ~/.mozilla/

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 March 2014 18:00, g wrote: > > > On 03/25/14 18:52, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 25 March 2014 13:08, g wrote: > <<<>>> > >>> thinking about that, a new profile is just about as easy a check >>> to make as disabling add-ons. >> >> >> It could be a pref in the profile not just an extension causi

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread g
On 03/25/14 18:52, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 25 March 2014 13:08, g wrote: <<<>>> thinking about that, a new profile is just about as easy a check to make as disabling add-ons. It could be a pref in the profile not just an extension causing the problem. Or maybe a corrupt *.sqlite database. Or

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 March 2014 13:08, g wrote: > > > On 03/25/14 13:30, Ahmad Samir wrote: > <<>> > >> Usually I'd try with a new profile first, if the problem doesn't >> happen there, then I try to track down why it's happening in the >> original profile. (i.e. I wasn't implying he just ditches his old >> prof

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread g
On 03/25/14 13:30, Ahmad Samir wrote: <<>> Usually I'd try with a new profile first, if the problem doesn't happen there, then I try to track down why it's happening in the original profile. (i.e. I wasn't implying he just ditches his old profile :)). thinking about that, a new profile is ju

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 24 March 2014 18:16, Ian Malone wrote: > > On 24 March 2014 08:14, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > On 23 March 2014 23:37, Bill Oliver wrote: > >> > >> > > >> Firefox will only allow one invocation of itself on my machine. > >> Sometimes, if I invoke the program by clicking an icon, it will come up >

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-24 Thread g
On 03/25/14 03:45, Bill Oliver wrote: <<>> It happened after doing one of those "you have 1 billion upgrades waiting, continue?" things that I get every now and then. I'll > admit I tend to just hit "yes" rather than carefully look at all > zillion of the files that is in yum updates. And,

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Oliver
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, g wrote: which leads to a question, did this problem start after an upgrade, update or addition of an add-on? ria, such factors could also lead to solution. hth. my apologies. much luck in finding solution. It happened after doing one of those "you have 1 billion up

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-24 Thread g
On 03/24/14 22:16, Ian Malone wrote: <<>> Or use about:addons to disable all plugins+extensions and see if the problem goes away (Firefox staying resident and preventing-relaunch if not killed so far as I can make out from this thread). If that does stop it happening then re-enable them one-by-

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 March 2014 08:14, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 23 March 2014 23:37, Bill Oliver wrote: >> >> >> Firefox will only allow one invocation of itself on my machine. >> Sometimes, if I invoke the program by clicking an icon, it will come up with >> an error message that says you can only have one cop

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-24 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 23 March 2014 23:37, Bill Oliver wrote: > > Earlier this month, I posted that Firefox would not start for me. Ed > Greshko kindly showed my his output when he started Firefox from the > command line. I noticed a bunch of Gnome stuff and assumed that there was > some sort of dependency I was

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 08:58, Bill Oliver wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: kills the process. is that not what you want, to able to kill window and process? Yeah, it'll work. I just have to remember it. I use GUIs by muscle memory, so I'll likely close the window 10 or 20 times before I re

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 08:57, Bill Oliver wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2014, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/23/2014 07:06 PM, g wrote: 24.4.0 Maybe if you upgraded to the newest version this would Just Go Away. g's not having the problem, I am :-) lol. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: kills the process. is that not what you want, to able to kill window and process? Yeah, it'll work. I just have to remember it. I use GUIs by muscle memory, so I'll likely close the window 10 or 20 times before I remember... billo -- users mailing list

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/23/2014 07:06 PM, g wrote: 24.4.0 Maybe if you upgraded to the newest version this would Just Go Away. g's not having the problem, I am :-) billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 08:17, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/23/2014 07:06 PM, g wrote: 24.4.0 Maybe if you upgraded to the newest version this would Just Go Away. if i was having problem op is having, i would well consider it. ;-) right now, i would rather stay where i am because i do am not having proble

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2014 07:06 PM, g wrote: 24.4.0 Maybe if you upgraded to the newest version this would Just Go Away. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http:

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 05:07, Bill Oliver wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: <<<>>> just what version and release are you having problems with? have you tried using to kill window? KDE 4.12.3 4.3.4 Firefox 27.0.1 24.4.0 % uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 3.13.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 S

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 05:37, Joe Zeff wrote: <> If you haven't already, open a bugzilla on it. The situation is odd enough that it should get somebody's attention fairly quickly, especially if your report includes an offer to get whatever debug info is needed. are you ever living in a dream world whe

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2014 03:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Instead of using ps, you can simply use "killall /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox" (note I'm running 64bit) pkill -9 firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2014 03:38 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: The problem is that the process doesn't quit when I kill the window (hit the "x" on the upper right edge of the frame -- which it used to do). Instead, I have to choose File->Quit from the Firefox menu. The process should die when I kill the window. I

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: On 03/24/14 04:38, Bill Oliver wrote: <> The problem is that the process doesn't quit when I kill the window (hit the "x" on the upper right edge of the frame -- which it used to do). Instead, I have to choose File->Quit from the Firefox menu. The process

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 04:38, Roger Heflin wrote: I actually wanted 2 separate users that were somewhat isolated from each other so the separate profiles was useful. in such case, using "firefox --no-remote -P " is the proper way. so far, op has not stated he is want to open in 2 profiles. -- peace

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 04:47, David wrote: <> Mozilla's advice is: "Firefox refuses to close using red X; have to right click on screen bottom to close" This specifically says "win XP" but I have seen others say this aboutit in Linux also. this is

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 04:38, Bill Oliver wrote: <> The problem is that the process doesn't quit when I kill the window (hit the "x" on the upper right edge of the frame -- which it used to do). Instead, I have to choose File->Quit from the Firefox menu. The process should die when I kill the window. I

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/24/14 06:47, Ed Greshko wrote: > "killall /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox" Of course I would make that into an alias. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://adm

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/24/14 05:37, Bill Oliver wrote: But that's OK.  The *problem* is that if I kill firefox by clicking on the kill-window button rather than the Quit button, the window goes away, but firefox continues in the background.  Thus, if I kill fir

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/24/14 05:37, Bill Oliver wrote: > But that's OK. The *problem* is that if I kill firefox by clicking on the > kill-window button rather than the Quit button, the window goes away, but > firefox continues in the background. Thus, if I kill firefox by closing the > window, I can't start it

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread David
On 3/23/2014 6:38 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: > >> >> >> On 03/24/14 03:37, Bill Oliver wrote: >> <> >>> I still don't know the fix, but the workaround is easy. >> >> the "fix" is not a 'fix'. it is using the correct procedure. >> >> try this, when you have firefox wind

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Roger Heflin
I actually wanted 2 separate users that were somewhat isolated from each other so the separate profiles was useful. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 5:10 PM, g wrote: > > > On 03/24/14 03:54, Roger Heflin wrote: > <> > >> if you want to run 2 separated copies you need to setup another >> profile and start

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, g wrote: On 03/24/14 03:37, Bill Oliver wrote: <> I still don't know the fix, but the workaround is easy. the "fix" is not a 'fix'. it is using the correct procedure. try this, when you have firefox window open you have _2_built-in_ options to open another window;

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 03:54, Roger Heflin wrote: <> if you want to run 2 separated copies you need to setup another profile and start it like this: firefox --no-remote -P that is another way. but more to go thru than simply using or . -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. t

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Roger Heflin
If you run firefox with one already running it tries to contacts the current running firefox version and may try to open a tab on the already running window, that may be the no error piece. if you want to run 2 separated copies you need to setup another profile and start it like this: firefox --no

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread g
On 03/24/14 03:37, Bill Oliver wrote: <> I still don't know the fix, but the workaround is easy. the "fix" is not a 'fix'. it is using the correct procedure. try this, when you have firefox window open you have _2_built-in_ options to open another window; 1- 2- enjoy. :-) -- peac

my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Oliver
Earlier this month, I posted that Firefox would not start for me. Ed Greshko kindly showed my his output when he started Firefox from the command line. I noticed a bunch of Gnome stuff and assumed that there was some sort of dependency I was missing, installed Gnome, and it seemed to work.