Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread lee
Fernando Lozano writes: > Imagine a bunch of desktops (or developer workstations) being upgraded > using fedup. Their software would be very similar. > > And my idea is that fedup would download from the net anything missing > (or newer) than the lan cache, so different configurations would be >

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Imagine if fedup worked using yum "keep cache" and then setup a http or nfs share for other machines to reuse all downloaded content. Then other machines wouldn't need to download / install anything to their local HDs before rebooting (except for the new grub, kernel and a few binaries kil

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/17/2013 12:05 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: My ideas make sense only for repeating the processes on multiple machines. If I could download all packages / and store then in a DVD media or a shared disk beforehand, it would save time for the second machine and so. Like we can do today with the i

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, It seems to work fine now, and I like to have recent NVIDIA drivers. I don't mind upgrading twice a year when it works, and it might have the advantage that per each upgrade, not as many changes are introduced as when upgrading less frequently. Until Fedora comes with a more radical change (

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:38:49AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: > > >Michael Hennebry writes: > > >>Having precisely one computer meant that I couldn't > >>look for on-line help while doing an install. > > > >That's one big advantage of the life systems some d

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: Michael Hennebry writes: Having precisely one computer meant that I couldn't look for on-line help while doing an install. That's one big advantage of the life systems some distributions have: You can always boot that and look for help even while installing.

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-16 Thread lee
Fernando Lozano writes: > Hi, > > In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more when you have many machines to upgrade. It gave me

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-16 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. >>> That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when >>> it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more >>> when you have many machines to upgrade. It gave me a lot to worry about >>> even wit

Re: importance of upgradeability

2013-07-16 Thread lee
Michael Hennebry writes: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: > >> Michael Hennebry writes: >> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, lee wrote: >> >>> In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. >> >> That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when >> it's questionable if the upgrad

Re: importance of upgradeability (was: Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?)

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, lee wrote: Michael Hennebry writes: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, lee wrote: In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more when yo

importance of upgradeability (was: Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?)

2013-07-15 Thread lee
Michael Hennebry writes: >> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, lee wrote: > In my case, I found Fedora very expensive to upgrade. That I can understand --- upgrading twice a year, especially when it's questionable if the upgrade works --- can be painful, all the more when you have many machines to upgrade.