Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-08 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/08/2016 05:53 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 08 March 2016, Cameron Simpson sent: That depends on your point of view. Technically, this whole thing: Cameron Simpson is my email address. A mail system is only meant to pay attention to certain parts of it for delivery purposes,

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 08 March 2016, Cameron Simpson sent: > That depends on your point of view. Technically, this whole thing: > > Cameron Simpson > > is my email address. A mail system is only meant to pay attention to > certain parts of it for delivery purposes, but it is _all_ "my > addre

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
m output. My message display index looks like this: 08Mar2016 17:19 Tim N ┌> Fedora 3.7K 08Mar2016 16:36 To Users - ┌> Fedora, Mine 2.2K 06Mar2016 16:17 jd1008- ├>Fedora 3.1K 06Mar2016 15

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Tim
Tim: >>Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the >>listed email dates into my local time. Cameron Simpson > Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display my local > time so that I have intuitive feel for the date of the messages. If you want to s

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Mar2016 15:15, Tim wrote: jd1008 As I replied to Rick Stevens on 03/04/2016 02:18 PM Mountain Standard Time. Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the listed email dates into my local time. Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread jd1008
On 03/05/2016 09:45 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Actually, I don't know that. I was of the understanding that fsck is not done on automounted devices, since I've never been aware of it jd1008 I stand corrected. You are right. I'm, also, fairly sure that auto file system checking is only done at boo

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Actually, I don't know that. I was of the understanding that fsck is >> not done on automounted devices, since I've never been aware of it jd1008 > I stand corrected. You are right. I'm, also, fairly sure that auto file system checking is only done at boot time, to things mentioned in t

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 10:12 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. Actually, I d

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:38 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 03/04/2016 08:25 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 > jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 >

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > All well and good. But I wish there were a dismissable banner on the > desktop notifying the user of this. Would be good... And would be good if the "wait before you unplug" warning when you eject/unmount a device was better, too. Sometimes

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects > insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount > it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. Actually, I don't know that. I was of the unde

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 08:25 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 > wrote: On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 > jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. >> Mounting and writing to it present no problems. >> However >> 1. sy

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 02:00 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb por

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mou

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, an

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. So, not sure about th

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 12:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 11:28 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a f

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. So, not sure about the "grip" :) I don't think that this is wh

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 12:28 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular f

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/04/2016 11:44 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I'd agree with this. HFS+ is a journaled filesystem. Support for the journaling is fairly new to Linux and there may be some oopsies. In the past it wasn't even writable under Linux--you had to disable journaling on the filesystem on a Mac, then you cou

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 11:28 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular fi

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. > Mounting and writing to it present no problems. > However > 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular filing system. Hanging sync soun

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 > wrote: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs 2. umount of any hfsplus partion, hangs.

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-03 Thread Jack Craig
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 wrote: > I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. > Mounting and writing to it present no problems. > However > 1. sync command hangs > 2. umount of any hfsplus partion, hangs. > 3. reboot hangs (it never reboots, forcing me to use the hard reset) > 4. shutdown now

hfsplus problems

2016-03-03 Thread jd1008
I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs 2. umount of any hfsplus partion, hangs. 3. reboot hangs (it never reboots, forcing me to use the hard reset) 4. shutdown now hangs requires hard reset. 5. using the gui system -> shutdow