Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-10-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:34:52PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > People running servers on a distribution other than a server setup > (ie. workstation). How often does someone's desktop get a server > dropped on it during development, then moved to production? > Developers have done that since the

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-10-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: bitlord wrote: This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please read carefully. And it is only default on Workstation image (that is what I know) Thank you for the warn

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-25 Thread bitlord
For people interested in this, there is a "upstream" bug report on gnome bugzilla [1] about making this optional. [1] - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737362 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:25 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > this is essentially how OS X and Windows does it as well. > > never been a good excuse... > It is a factor that must be considered. Believe it or not, Linux is highly influenced by ho

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:05:43PM +0200, bitlord wrote: > currently first option doesn't work because 'gnome-shell' depends on > 'NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora', second option is possible, > but I still think it should be made more easier for regular users, and > should be pointed out

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-24 Thread bitlord
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:38:39AM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > > And there should be a way to disable this feature or to use it for > > other ways. > > Yes, of course. Remove the NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora > package, or

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-24 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:25 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > this is essentially how OS X and Windows does it as well. never been a good excuse... -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.16.2-201.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Sep 15 20:21:12 UTC 2014 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted,

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.09.2014, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > If a ping every 300 secs(ICMP\HTTP\HTTPS 1\2)Will consume bandwidth and can > be disabled using a basic FW rules(from a network level). This is clearly the wrong way to do it, e.g. fixing the symptoms rather than the root cause of the problem itself. >

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > Hey Rahul, > > I am not sure if there is a production use of Fedora at many places yet. > Unclear how this is related but sure, there is. We hear about them pretty regularly. http://arunsag.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/flock-2013-fedor

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:38:39AM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > And there should be a way to disable this feature or to use it for > other ways. Yes, of course. Remove the NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora package, or look at the /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/20-connectivity-fedora.conf f

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-23 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
Hey Rahul, I am not sure if there is a production use of Fedora at many places yet. If a ping every 300 secs(ICMP\HTTP\HTTPS 1\2)Will consume bandwidth and can be disabled using a basic FW rules(from a network level). And there should be a way to disable this feature or to use it for other wa

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > bitlord wrote: > >> This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please read >> carefully. And it is only default on Workstation image (that is what I >> know) >> >> Thank you for the warning! I have to read up on Captive Por

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
bitlord wrote: This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please read carefully. And it is only default on Workstation image (that is what I know) Thank you for the warning! I have to read up on Captive Portal, but I'm willing to bet that most people who run servers which are not s

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-12 Thread Joseph Walton-Rivers
Hello, I know that this is still a devel release, but it's worth noting that it would appear that it's the standard way of detecting captive portals. It would appear that chromium and windows both user similar detection systems for captive portals. I can see this being quite a useful feature for

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-09-01 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 31.08.2014, bitlord wrote: > There is a new feature introduced in Gnome and NetworkManager which > allows 'Captive Portal'[1] services to work. This may be useful feature > for some users (that is why it is implemented), but most users won't use > it, and it pings fedora servers every '300seco

Re: f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-08-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 16:51 +0200, bitlord wrote: > This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please post F21 questions or comments on the Fedora Test list, not this one. Some F21 developers don't even read the Users list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

f21 workstation(gnome) ping fedora servers every 300seconds

2014-08-31 Thread bitlord
This is about Fedora 21 which is still not released!!! Please read carefully. And it is only default on Workstation image (that is what I know) There is a new feature introduced in Gnome and NetworkManager which allows 'Captive Portal'[1] services to work. This may be useful feature for some user