Re: f20 - gedit

2014-01-03 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/03/2014 06:17 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: ... As the App Menu works bad when using multiple windows and focus follow mouse, this should perhaps be a part of gnome-tweak-tool (a tick box there to chose App Menu or not), so one doesn't have t

Re: f20 - gedit

2014-01-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > On 12/19/2013 09:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: >> >> AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE >> it's not used. >> >> FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the >> 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.p

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/19/2013 09:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE it's not used. FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daem

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Edward M
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:21:23 -0800 Edward M wrote: > logged in as root using su -; CORRECTION: Sorry i typed it like this it my be confusing. I meant to say I logged in as root by typing su - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:05:49 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 > > Ahmad Samir wrote: > > > >> On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Well h

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 10:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz > wrote: On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> wrote:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz > wrote: > >> You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running >> startx so you can get the full root gui exp

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> wrote: You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running startx so you can get the full root gui experience? No, I mean logging i

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 05:43 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running > startx so you can get the full root gui experience? > No, I mean logging into the desktop as root rather than as a normal user. This is generally frowned on. poc -

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread David G . Miller
Patrick O'Callaghan gmail.com> writes: > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 > Germán A. Racca wrote: > > Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I > > only tested gedit because I saw your emai

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 08:02 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:42:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I tend to forget about rpm itself. Actually, when I DID use it, yum would get upset, It doesn't. Yum warns that the RPM database has been modified by a tool other than Yum, but you're

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 05:43 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:42:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I tend to forget about rpm itself. Actually, when I DID use it, yum > would get upset, It doesn't. Yum warns that the RPM database has been modified by a tool other than Yum, but you're free to ignore that warning. Yum maintains a fe

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 06:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley > wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: > Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I > onl

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 > Germán A. Racca wrote: > > > Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I > > only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM > > to edit files :) > > This

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: > Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I > only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM > to edit files :) This again? Please give a link to the giant list of exploits that have a

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: >> >> On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread ergodic
> Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, > I > only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only > VIM > to edit files :) Why? - Original Message - > On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:13 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robe

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor ins

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries a

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just w

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: > > > Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. > > This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't t

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >Confirm > >used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries > >appear within gedit. > > What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed > items and did not recognize anything to change th

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 & f19, these

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'prefer

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course > >> since I skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues > >>

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I >> skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues >> >> So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wr

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
ry instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz <mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! - Reply message - From: "Dan Thurman" To: Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz > On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +010

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 06:16 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. Only a 16GB SSD on this ASUS ee900. Kind of 'pressed' for space. I

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: > Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? I will most likely try again tomorrow... 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz > On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dennis Kaptain
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz > > On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: > > On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 > bitlord wrote: > > > (just as example), but probably should have some fallbac

What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: > (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on > NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason to run as

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 10:20 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running yum list installed gedit HTH HAND. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 01:25 PM, Tim Evans wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I thi

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread bitlord
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I > skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues > > So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I > can use it to edit various config fi

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Evans
On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I think the dumbing down has gone a bit too far.

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 12:55 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: ​HI What version of gedit are you using? Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I th

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Marvin Kosmal
​HI What version of gedit are you using? Marvin ​ On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I > skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues > > So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off lin

f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to vi. -- users mailing list users@lists.fe