On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:41 AM Beartooth wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:55:39 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2022-10-12 at 14:06 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> [...]
> >> You may find a section in its preferences which mentions updates, but
> >> it's just descriptive text. O
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:01:07 -0700
stan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 05:04:04 +1030
> Tim via users wrote:
>
> > Tim:
> > >> And I can confirm the same thing on my PC using Fedora 36 (which
> > >> is usually kept up to date every other day or so).
> >
> > Beartooth:
> > > So it
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 05:04:04 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
> Tim:
> >> And I can confirm the same thing on my PC using Fedora 36 (which is
> >> usually kept up to date every other day or so).
>
> Beartooth:
> > So it isn't me. That's some slight consolation. But how do
> > I know what rep
Tim:
>> And I can confirm the same thing on my PC using Fedora 36 (which is
>> usually kept up to date every other day or so).
Beartooth:
> So it isn't me. That's some slight consolation. But how do I know
> what repo it's getting all these mandatory instant updates from?
Are you sure it
On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 14:40 +, Beartooth wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:55:39 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2022-10-12 at 14:06 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> [...]
> > > You may find a section in its preferences which mentions updates,
> > > but
> > > it's just descriptive
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:55:39 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-10-12 at 14:06 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
[...]
>> You may find a section in its preferences which mentions updates, but
>> it's just descriptive text. On my CentOS installation (the PC I'm
>> typing on now), it's on
On Wed, 2022-10-12 at 14:06 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> My experience is that Firefox installed from Linux repos don't have a
> tickbox to allow Firefox to update itself (if it did, it'd download a
> version from Mozilla, not the repo).
>
> You may find a section in its preferences which mentio
stan:
>> You can fix this by going into edit->settings->general If you page
>> down, near the bottom there will be a setting to allow or disable
>> automatic updates.
Beartooth:
> I tried that. Clicking on ">>" and scrolling got me to
> edit->settings->general (as did clicking on the equ
On 10/11/22 18:51, Samuel Sieb wrote:
The same thing applies to any running software, so it's really easiest
to do a reboot unless you're just updating specific applications.
That's why I like needs-restarting. If you only need to restart one or
two programs, you can do that quicker than a r
On 10/10/22 07:40, Beartooth wrote:
I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my machines,
all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if there's a kernel
change. Should I?)
Nevertheless, Firefox demands its own updates, including its own
reboot, whensoever it
On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 12:34 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/11/22 11:38, James Szinger wrote:
> > It seems that within the past month or so, Firefox gained the
> > ability
> > to detect if a dependency has been updated. If so, it insists on
> > restarting. I presume this is to stop using the old,
On 10/11/22 11:38, James Szinger wrote:
It seems that within the past month or so, Firefox gained the ability
to detect if a dependency has been updated. If so, it insists on
restarting. I presume this is to stop using the old, buggy, and
insecure shared libraries that have been updated.
You
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:40:26 - (UTC)
Beartooth wrote:
> I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my
> machines, all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if
> there's a kernel change. Should I?)
>
> Nevertheless, Firefox demands its own updates, including i
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:18:03 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
> 2022-10-11 18:09 UTC+02:00, Beartooth :
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:14:56 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
>>
>>> If he did install it outside of Fedora, wouldn't it be better to
>>> uninstall it and install the Fedora version? That way he would ge
2022-10-11 18:09 UTC+02:00, Beartooth :
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:14:56 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
>
>> If he did install it outside of Fedora, wouldn't it be better to
>> uninstall it and install the Fedora version? That way he would get
>> regular updates along with the rest of his packages.
>
>
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:14:56 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
> If he did install it outside of Fedora, wouldn't it be better to
> uninstall it and install the Fedora version? That way he would get
> regular updates along with the rest of his packages.
I've been running Ffx since it was iirc 'p
On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 08:24 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> I used to teach “practicals” for workshops using the software in
> question. Spending the first couple sessions on linux basics made the
> remaining sessions flow more efficiently. You can’t cover very much
> in a few hours, so the ma
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:31 AM Tim via users
wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 08:38 +0100, Barry wrote:
> > I guess this is a hang over from yum days. The problem I assume is
> > how to update to the latest packages?
> >
> > With yum the yum clean all is required to get the latest meta data
> > fo
On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 08:38 +0100, Barry wrote:
>
>
> > On 10 Oct 2022, at 22:23, Tim via users
> > wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if you're thinking you need to do "clean all" to solve a
> > problem that's actually caused by not rebooting after crucial
> > updates.
>
> I guess this is a hang over fr
On Tue, 2022-10-11 at 08:38 +0100, Barry wrote:
> I guess this is a hang over from yum days. The problem I assume is
> how to update to the latest packages?
>
> With yum the yum clean all is required to get the latest meta data
> for the yum update.
> Today you can use dnf update —refresh to get t
> On 10 Oct 2022, at 22:23, Tim via users wrote:
>
> I wonder if you're thinking you need to do "clean all" to solve a
> problem that's actually caused by not rebooting after crucial updates.
I guess this is a hang over from yum days. The problem I assume is how to
update to the latest packag
On Mon, 2022-10-10 at 14:40 +, Beartooth wrote:
> I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my machines,
> all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if there's a
> kernel change. Should I?)
Unless an odd problem has cropped up (with their repo, or something
going really b
> On 10 Oct 2022, at 15:41, Beartooth wrote:
>
>I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade
thatpair is now a single command
$ dnf update --refresh
Barry
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:14:56 +0200
Andras Simon wrote:
> Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 17:08, stan via users
> a écrit :
>
> >
> > At some point you must have installed firefox outside of fedora,
> > which defaults to automatic updates. You can fix this by going into
> > edit->settings->general If y
On Mon, 2022-10-10 at 17:14 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
> Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 17:08, stan via users
>
> a écrit :
>
> >
> > At some point you must have installed firefox outside of fedora,
> > which
> > defaults to automatic updates. You can fix this by going into
> > edit->settings->general
Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 17:08, stan via users
a écrit :
>
> At some point you must have installed firefox outside of fedora, which
> defaults to automatic updates. You can fix this by going into
> edit->settings->general If you page down, near the bottom there will
> be a setting to allow or dis
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:40:26 - (UTC)
Beartooth wrote:
> I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my
> machines, all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if
> there's a kernel change. Should I?)
The dnf clean all isn't harmful, but it wastes time and bandwidth if
I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my machines,
all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if there's a kernel
change. Should I?)
Nevertheless, Firefox demands its own updates, including its own
reboot, whensoever it damn pleases, and won't lift an e
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