Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/14/19 2:18 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: I'm afraid creating that little file had no effect on my touchpad. I can disable the touchpad in Windows with a BIOS setting, but F30 doesn't seem to care. That doesn't make sense. The BIOS setting should disconnect the touchpad rega

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robert G (Doc) Savage via users writes: On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 08:22 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Robert G (Doc) Savage via users writes: > > Insofar as X, if you want to disable the infernal click-to-tap, just > create > the following file: > > [mrsam@thinkpad ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-14 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 08:22 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Robert G (Doc) Savage via users writes: > > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new > > > hardware, > > > but I'm > > > having some difficulty finding Fedo

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 08:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > but it's still overkill for me, with their liquid-cooled setup. If you're considering multi-processor things for lots of actual computing, then I'd say cooling is going to be a consideration. A newer system with all that is probably goin

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 23:53:39 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > And Nvidia's proprietary driver is another thing I'd rather not deal with. > it seems that most vendors ship new Nvidia chipsets that x.org lists as not > supported. One issue with Nvidia chipsets is that Fedora works fine without t

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 16:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/12/19 5:42 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > George N. White III writes: > > > >> https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake-Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm > > > https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake-S

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/12/19 5:42 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: George N. White III writes: https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake-Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm>https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake-Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm offers Fedora on Core i9 workstations.   T

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/12/19 5:19 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Samuel Sieb writes: If you don't mind saying, what country are you in?  Would you be comfortable with building the system yourself?  You will probably find it difficult to get the combination you want otherwise. USA. I'm ok building everything toget

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 09:43, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > George N. White III writes: > > > https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake- > > Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm> > https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel- > > Core-i9-SkyLake-Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm > > > > offers Fe

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
George N. White III writes: https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel-Core-i9-SkyLake- Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm>https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-W299-Intel- Core-i9-SkyLake-Series-3D-CAD-p/w299.htm offers Fedora on Core i9 workstations.   They only sell the high end i9's in a case

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robert G (Doc) Savage via users writes: On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, > but I'm > having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's > slightly > above average grade, such as dual CPU an

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 10/11/19 6:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: My requirements are not very stringent. Onboard video and audio will do, as long as it works out of the box with x.org, and has reasonable compositing and can keep up with full screen video playback. Dual 1GB NIC, a pair of SA

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-12 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 22:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Tim via users writes: > > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, > > > but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, > > > that's

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, > but I'm > having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's > slightly > above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't > gotten >

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 21:27 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Maybe I'm off base, but who still puts button cell batteries on their > motherboards? Just about every board I've seen... It's for the clock, more than anything else. I've seen (old) systems that used a rechargeable battery, instead, bu

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/11/19 6:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: My requirements are not very stringent. Onboard video and audio will do, as long as it works out of the box with x.org, and has reasonable compositing and can keep up with full screen video playback. Dual 1GB NIC, a pair of SATA drives, and then as ma

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, > but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, > that's slightly above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning > rust (I h

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, > but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, > that's slightly above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning > rust (I haven't gotten quite aboar

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-11 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 09:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > George N. White III writes: > > > In general, multiple CPU's only make sense if you need more cores than > you > > can get (or afford) on one CPU. The exception might be cases like > compiles > > where there are lots of independent processe

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 12:53, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 07:03 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > SSDs haven't been around long enough, I feel, for their claimed > > longevity to be proven. > I used to work at an oceanographic institute, so many systems got used at sea (in the N

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/10/19 5:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: George N. White III writes: In general, multiple CPU's only make sense if you need more cores than you can get (or afford) on one CPU.   The exception might be cases like compiles where there are lots of independent processes and you benefit from do

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/10/19 4:03 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Samuel Sieb writes: I'm not understanding what you mean here.  What's wrong with several decades? I've got HDDs that are already that old. They still work fine. They'll probably work fine for just as long. SSDs haven't been around long enough, I f

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 08:14:35AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I understand all of these factors. I'm looking for some links to > vendors that delivered something that Fedora ran on, without issues. > Google is not cooperating. I got a desktop system from Zareason configured with Fedora pre-in

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 07:03 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > SSDs haven't been around long enough, I feel, for their claimed > longevity to be proven. While that is true, it is hard to predict future performance of a new product. > And no matter what it is, SSDs have a ticking clock, counting down

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/10/19 11:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I just can't get used to the concept on an expiration date on my storage. I've got rust here that's been spinning for a decade, FWIW, I have several systems using SSD only.  The maker being Crucial.  I was not an early adopter. I looked at the "wo

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:09 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, but > I'm > having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's slightly > above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't gotten > quite aboar

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
George N. White III writes: In general, multiple CPU's only make sense if you need more cores than you can get (or afford) on one CPU.   The exception might be cases like compiles  where there are lots of independent processes and you benefit from double  the cache, but you can also get CPU mode

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/10/19 6:54 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 10/10/19 11:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: And Nvidia's proprietary driver is another thing I'd rather not deal with. it seems that most vendors ship new Nvidia chipsets that x.org lists as not supported. May I ask where that

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 10/9/19 8:53 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I just can't get used to the concept on an expiration date on my storage. I've got rust here that's been spinning for a decade, and I've been banging away it, constantly. Hard. I'm told that even under constant use modern SSDs

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 23:09, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, but > I'm > having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's slightly > above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't gotten > quite aboard

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 10/10/19 11:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: And Nvidia's proprietary driver is another thing I'd rather not deal with. it seems that most vendors ship new Nvidia chipsets that x.org lists as not supported. May I ask where that list is located? https://nouveau.freedesk

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-10 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 23:53 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I just can't get used to the concept on an expiration date on my > storage. I've got rust here that's been spinning for a decade, and > I've been banging away it, constantly. Hard. I'm told that even under > constant use modern SSDs are r

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/9/19 8:53 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Actually I did manage to get a laptop, from linuxlaptops, with a spinning HD this year. They do still exist. That's not what I meant. Almost all laptops still come with spinning drives, but I've been replacing them with SSDs. The laptop drives are

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/10/19 11:53 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: And Nvidia's proprietary driver is another thing I'd rather not deal with. it seems that most vendors ship new Nvidia chipsets that x.org lists as not supported. May I ask where that list is located? -- If simple questions can be answered with a s

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 10/9/19 7:08 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's slightly above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't gotten quite

Re: Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/9/19 7:08 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's slightly above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't gotten quite aboard the SSD train, wi

Time to refresh my hardware

2019-10-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
My C++ compiles are getting longer. It's time to get new hardware, but I'm having some difficulty finding Fedora-friendly hardware, that's slightly above average grade, such as dual CPU and spinning rust (I haven't gotten quite aboard the SSD train, with its built-in expiration date). Tips