Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:33 +0700, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: >> 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in >> looks by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but >> Windoze and Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. Things like >> true clas

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Roger wrote: > The "Oh! Wow" effect, I would say could be from windows and mac users > whose mindset puts Linux  circa "days of dos 3". > Roger I think people misunderstood my anecdote. The "Oh wow!" wasn't because linux could do transparencies, but because it did

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
> 2) is solved! [ yum install gconf-editor ] Nope. It's perhaps in the process of being solved. But the things that I can edit, don't change a thing in the enabling of the wifi thing. In the nm-applet group, there's the key 'disable-wifi-create'. I have a feeling I need to change that.

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Roger
I'm not joking. Yes, there are some look-perks that Linux has - like the > > cube and the wobbly windows - that are nice, and "Oh wow!" indeed. > But did > > you notice my mentioning of the true transparency? Even conky isn't truly > > transparent, but what about borders or panels? Why? ? Ubunt

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 08:55:19 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >        [] >> Intel is famous for their poor quality video drivers for Linux.  Just >> run Wine with notepad and you will have some idea on what I am talking >> about.  Some of the mo

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/26/2010 12:49 PM, Beartooth wrote: > > So I launched my lshw-gui (not knowing a better way). But if it > sees any video card, it calls it something else. How do I check what I've > got in any given machine? > Doesn't show much (anything?) on the pci bus ... lspci -v shows vide

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/26/2010 11:53 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > I'm aware of that, the reply-to is there for a purpose (deliberate e-mail > redundancy, don't ask...). As long as you know what's happening, it's no problem. Back when I did tech support for an ISP, I regularly got calls from customers who couldn

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/26/2010 09:02 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > 3) Gnome folks lack good taste for eye-candy :-D . If you try out just the > default KDE spin, you'll find a much more interesting environment even by > default, not to mention turning on desktop effects and such. I use Gnome. The few times I tried

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/26/2010 07:55 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > Intel is famous for their poor quality video drivers for Linux. Just > run Wine with notepad and you will have some idea on what I am talking > about. Built in graphics card on a notebook. And, everything Just Works including the 3D graphics. --

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/26/2010 04:44 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > Leaving my comments on hardware management and wifi (almost) unnoticed. Not unnoticed. Snipped because I didn't have a comment. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 08:55:19 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: [] > Intel is famous for their poor quality video drivers for Linux. Just > run Wine with notepad and you will have some idea on what I am talking > about. Some of the more famous games that were ported to Linux don't > work th

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sunday 26 December 2010 08:11 AM, Tim wrote: > Transparency's all very well for shuffling windows about, trying to find > the one you want behind the currently front-most one. But it's > appalling to try and use a terminal or application when you're seeing > what's behind it through what you're

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:33 +0700, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in > looks by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but > Windoze and Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. Things like > true class-borders should

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread James McKenzie
On 12/26/10 2:47 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/25/2010 11:33 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: >> 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in looks >> by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but Windoze and >> Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. > You are

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
> You are joking, aren't you? I don't know what you mean by "lesser > graphic-cards," but I have a Toshiba laptop with Intel graphics and F 13 > that I use as a showpiece. I'm not joking. Yes, there are some look-perks that Linux has - like the cube and the wobbly windows - that are nice, a

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread 夜神 岩男
--- Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/25/2010 11:33 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > > 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has > been surpassed in looks > > by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know > all, but Windoze and > > Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. > > You are jo

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread DB
On 12/26/2010 11:36 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Subject: > Thoughts of a user > > 2) Wifi: It may be a sore point, but there is no ease of installing > (newer) machines with built in wifi cards. While I understand that all > those things are built for

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Hiisi
su, 2010-12-26 kello 02:14 -0800, Suvayu Ali kirjoitti: > The other day my (Mac using) supervisor went "Ooh wow" seeing my > "translucent on move" windows on XFCE. :) > > -- > Suvayu My (windoze 7 using) supervisor was astonished seeing my good old timeless twm running on scientific linux ;-) -

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sunday 26 December 2010 01:47 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/25/2010 11:33 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: >> 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in looks >> by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but Windoze and >> Mac all look better on lesser graphic-

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/25/2010 11:33 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in looks > by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but Windoze and > Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. You are joking, aren't you? I don't know what you

Re: Thoughts of a user

2010-12-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 14:33:32 +0700, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > > 2) Wifi: It may be a sore point, but there is no ease of installing > (newer) machines with built in wifi cards. While I understand that all It should work for wireless cards where there is freely redistributable firmw

Thoughts of a user

2010-12-25 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
Hi There, I have some thoughts regarding the future and aim fedora developers should take. I - as a very average normal user - have installed several releases, and am very happy with Fedora 13, and have no doubt Fedora 14 will satisfy my needs as well. Having said that, there are some conce