On 6 January 2014 16:03, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear folks,
>
> I got to use a compose key in previous versions of gnome or using a
> setxkbmap compose key when using other desktops. But in this machine using
> gnome, I can't do what I used to do:
>
>
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help
Dear folks,
I got to use a compose key in previous versions of gnome or using a setxkbmap
compose key when using other desktops. But in this machine using gnome, I
can't do what I used to do:
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/3.3/tips-specialchars.html.en#compose
I want to do the same h
Sorry Mike,
I replied to the wrong thread :(
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On 05/22/2012 09:00 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
Hi all,
There was a thread not too far back that explained how to type
characters not on a keyboard by using the key but for the life
of me I can not find it.
e.g. to type a Spanish i with an accent mark it would be
apostrophe i.
I made pretty
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 09:15:54PM +0100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> Mike Wright wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There was a thread not too far back that explained how to type
> > characters not on a keyboard by using the key but for the life
> > of me I can not find it.
> >
> > e.g. to type a Spanish
Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There was a thread not too far back that explained how to type
> characters not on a keyboard by using the key but for the life
> of me I can not find it.
>
> e.g. to type a Spanish i with an accent mark it would be apostrophe i.
You might find
https://live.gno
On 05/22/2012 12:18 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> You need the USA-International keyboard layout (that's what I use).
> Here on F14: System/Preferences/Keyboard and then you go to the Layouts
> tab and change it there.
Or, in a terminal (I hope it still works in F15 or F16):
system-config-keyboard
On 05/22/2012 12:00 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> e.g. to type a Spanish i with an accent mark it would be apostrophe i.
You need the USA-International keyboard layout (that's what I use).
Here on F14: System/Preferences/Keyboard and then you go to the Layouts
tab and change it there.
HTH,
Jorge
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Hi all,
There was a thread not too far back that explained how to type
characters not on a keyboard by using the key but for the life of
me I can not find it.
e.g. to type a Spanish i with an accent mark it would be apostrophe i.
I made pretty heavy use of it for a while but it ceased work
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:47:51 -0700
Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:37:44 +0900
> nomnex wrote:
> > Why is it better to use the bash_profile instead of ~/.bashrc.
> There is a very good explanation for the reasons by Steven W. Orr in
> the archives.
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.or
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 08:37 +0900, nomnex wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:51:17 -0700
> suvayu ali wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM, nomnex wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
> > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > >> The '&' is not part of the command. It's an instr
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:37:44 +0900
nomnex wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:51:17 -0700
> suvayu ali wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM, nomnex wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
> > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > >> The '&' is not part of the command. It's an ins
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:09:24 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Ah, that, and ^Z to send the app in the background, or $bg/$fg +
> > PID. I have seen that, but I don't usually use the shell to launch
> > the applications. so, the '&' part is superfluous when I pass the
> > command in my bashrc
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:51:17 -0700
suvayu ali wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM, nomnex wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
> > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> The '&' is not part of the command. It's an instruction to the
> >> Shell to run the command in the background. See
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM, nomnex wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
>> The '&' is not part of the command. It's an instruction to the Shell
>> to run the command in the background. See any beginner's guide to any
>> Unix/Linux shell (sh, csh, bash, k
On 06/16/2011 09:46 PM, nomnex wrote:
> the '&' part is superfluous when I pass the command in
> my bashrc file, I guess.
Not if you ever want to get a prompt it isn't.
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On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 13:46 +0900, nomnex wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > The '&' is not part of the command. It's an instruction to the Shell
> > to run the command in the background. See any beginner's guide to any
> > Unix/Linux shell (sh, csh, ba
nomnex gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> Could somebody help me setting the compose key on Fedora LXDE 13.
> I probably have to edit a text file. Which one, how, and its location
> would help. Thanks
>
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Change_keyboard_layouts
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nomnex wrote:
> so, the '&' part is superfluous when I pass the command in
> my bashrc file
I believe so, but don't quote me. Try it: it should work.
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:46:39 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The '&' is not part of the command. It's an instruction to the Shell
> to run the command in the background. See any beginner's guide to any
> Unix/Linux shell (sh, csh, bash, ksh, zsh, ...) for more information.
Ah, that, and ^Z to
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:22 +0900, nomnex wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:08:48 -0600
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>
> > setxkbmap -option compose:menu &
>
> Wait, I have just a little question. What's the '&' for. Is it
> mandatory? It seems I have the same result if I pass the command
> witho
nomnex wrote:
> What's the '&' for [?]
If you don't use the '&' at the end of the line, the program will run, but the
command line will be hung until the program is terminated. If you put the '&'
oat the end of the command, then the running program goes into the background,
I believe, and you
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:08:48 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> setxkbmap -option compose:menu &
Wait, I have just a little question. What's the '&' for. Is it
mandatory? It seems I have the same result if I pass the command
without it.
setxkbmap -option compose:menu
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:08:48 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> setxkbmap -option compose:menu &
Merci
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nomnex wrote:
> what's the setxkbmap command to use the menu key? There is no
> right alt on the JP keyboard layout on my notebooks.
I use KDE and there is a graphical interface to set it. However, I am guessing
that you can likely find success with:
setxkbmap -option compose:menu &
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:24:49 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > You can use the compose command and set it up in ~/.bashrc
> > Add a line
> >
> > setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &
>
> I use the menu key, to the right of right-alt, since right-alt is
> also known a
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> íïéë - Iḿ almost loving it... :)
Tell me about it. It's like you can actually type freely and don't have to look
at character charts to type words.
> All I need to learn is which alt I need
> to type to get the apostrophe, and not an m with an accent...
apostrophe
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I don't even have a Menu key, nor anything labeled Windows
I hate those damned windows keys, but they are handy as spare keys to be mapped
to useful functions that windows does not have.
I can use menu as compose, and the left windows key is actually meta, if I am
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> BTW all of these use Right Alt, not Left Alt.
Yes, right alt and left alt are not the same thing. On German keyboards, left
alt is called alt and right alt is called Alt-Gr, so you can see that they are
different. Even on a US international keyboard, right alt m pro
Tim wrote:
> f you take lessons, though. The keyboard layout becomes second nature,
> quite quickly. You can do that with a program, you don't need to go to
> a school. While it may seem overkill, for many, but if you do a lot of
> email, or programming, or any other regular typing. It's worth
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> in F15 the settings are under System
> Settings -> Region and Language -> Layout.
I don't know which version of kde you are using, but in fedora 15, with
kde-4.6.3, there is no layout under systemsettings/locale region and language.
Layouts are shown under:
system
> I'm using the other variation called "English (international AltGr dead
> keys)".
I will - probably at some point. Right now, I just have two (three,
actually, Thai also) keyboard layouts enabled. One for when I'm typing
English, and one for when I'm typing Dutch. Dutch barely uses any
apo
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:52 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> I've always wanted a keyboard that has the letters arranged in order.
> It makes no sense for me, and likely 95% of other computer users, to
> have querty or other unnatural key arrangements.
There are some children's keyboards that
On Jun 16 19:47, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> My apologies for not being clear in the opening letter, but I was looking
> for a solution for Fedora 15. :) However, I did manage to get the
> suggestion by Petrus de Calguarium to work, which was this:
>
> >> I'm using the US English keyboard, a
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 19:47 +0700, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> íïéë - Iḿ almost loving it... :) All I need to learn is which alt I
> need
> to type to get the apostrophe, and not an m with an accent...
Type a space after the '.
poc
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My apologies for not being clear in the opening letter, but I was looking
for a solution for Fedora 15. :) However, I did manage to get the
suggestion by Petrus de Calguarium to work, which was this:
>> I'm using the US English keyboard, and am so used to that, I don't want
>> to
>> change t
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 00:24 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > You can use the compose command and set it up in ~/.bashrc
> > Add a line
> >
> > setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &
>
> I use the menu key, to the right of right-alt, since right-alt is also known
> as
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 00:18 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > The hardest to remember are ¿ and ¡
>
> Really?
>
> ¿ is alt-/ (shift-/ is ?)
> ¡ is alt-1 (shift-1 is !)
That's true in Linux (though IIRC it sued to be different). However on a
Mac keyboard which
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 22:19 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 09:52 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > I realize that they are based on
> > character frequency in English,
>
> No. They were arranged that way to minimize the possibility of keyboard
> jams in early manual typewriters.
The w
Antonio Olivares wrote:
> You can use the compose command and set it up in ~/.bashrc
> Add a line
>
> setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &
I use the menu key, to the right of right-alt, since right-alt is also known as
Alt-Gr and it has a different function than left-alt.
left-alt-m does not print
On 15 Jun 2011 at 22:52, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The hardest to remember are ¿ and ¡
Really?
¿ is alt-/ (shift-/ is ?)
¡ is alt-1 (shift-1 is !)
I find those really obvious.
I just found ç and Ç. They're also somewhat obvious, but not based on the c.
ç is alt-,
Ç is shift-alt-,
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Joe Zeff wrote:
> No. They were arranged that way to minimize the possibility of keyboard
> jams in early manual typewriters.
True. Now that you mention it, it jogs my memory.
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On 06/15/2011 09:52 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> I realize that they are based on
> character frequency in English,
No. They were arranged that way to minimize the possibility of keyboard
jams in early manual typewriters.
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Tim wrote:
> Ever more, the need for the standard QWERTY keyboard (and its ilk) to be
> abandoned has increased. It's inadequate for anything more than primary
> school beginner's English.
I've always wanted a keyboard that has the letters arranged in order. It
makes no sense for me, and likely
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:41 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 14:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > IMHO this is the only reasonable way to do accented characters. The
> > "compose-key" combos are hopeless for people who actually use accents
> > continually, as I do in Spanish. The ot
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 17:14 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> nomnex wrote:
>
> > I used to simultaneously press , and keys.
> > Release "U" key and enter Unicode symbol's hex code
>
> Holy Moley! But you have to memorize the unicode hex code for each character.
> You're right, it doesn't w
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 14:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> IMHO this is the only reasonable way to do accented characters. The
> "compose-key" combos are hopeless for people who actually use accents
> continually, as I do in Spanish. The other option (using a special
> language keyboard) can b
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:03 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares wrote:
> nomnex,
>
> You can use the compose command and set it up in ~/.bashrc
> Add a line
>
> setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &
Antonio, thank you!
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> > IMHO this is the only reasonable way to do accented
> characters.
>
> I used to simultaneously press ,
> and keys.
> Release "U" key and enter Unicode symbol's hex code (I use
> Fr/En)... It
> does not always work (eg. applications using a QT toolkit)
>
> Linux compose key sequences method
nobody to help me setting a compose key on LXDE? I found an article
about editing XORG.
in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules, the xorg file is now auto generated.
And it says do DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.
I have include this command in my bashrc file to be able to switch from
US/CH(F) "setxkbmap -layout "jp,c
nomnex wrote:
> I used to simultaneously press , and keys.
> Release "U" key and enter Unicode symbol's hex code
Holy Moley! But you have to memorize the unicode hex code for each character.
You're right, it doesn't work in KDE.
> Linux compose key sequences method is a gem
I like them, too,
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 16:59 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > Or diacritical+space, which works all the time. I speak as one with an
> > apostrophe in my name :-)
>
> I have an ü :-) but in English, I usually just use ue.
>
ü pops up in Spanish now and again,
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Or diacritical+space, which works all the time. I speak as one with an
> apostrophe in my name :-)
I have an ü :-) but in English, I usually just use ue.
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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> IMHO this is the only reasonable way to do accented characters.
I used to simultaneously press , and keys.
Release "U" key and enter Unicode symbol's hex code (I use Fr/En)... It
does not always work (eg. applications using a QT t
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 11:19 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
>
> > I'm using the US English keyboard, and am so used to that, I don't want to
> > change the layout.
>
> I type a lot in German and French and I also use the US 104-key generic
> layout.
> In systems
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> I'm using the US English keyboard, and am so used to that, I don't want to
> change the layout.
I type a lot in German and French and I also use the US 104-key generic layout.
In systemsettings/input devices/keyboard/layouts, you can select US-
international with de
used to be done, was by setting up a "compose" key in the
> keyboard preferences. Then, to make special characters, you'd type your
> compose key, then type the other characters that looked like the
> character that you wanted to create. ("Type" as in typ
mpose" key in the
keyboard preferences. Then, to make special characters, you'd type your
compose key, then type the other characters that looked like the
character that you wanted to create. ("Type" as in type one key after
another, not hold all the keys down at the same time.)
e
Hi There,
I'm using the US English keyboard, and am so used to that, I don't want to
change the layout.
However, I type quite a few things in Dutch, and in F14 and earlier, I had
standard enabled a special character "thingy" in the panel. This allowed
me to chose a character (like é or ï - t
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