Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I tried to do that once, with my systems. But my DHCP server won't >> let me assign the same IP to two different MACs. Samuel Sieb: > I use the standard dhcp server included with Fedora. You can create > two entries with different identifiers and different macs but with > the same IP and

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I tried to do that once, with my systems. But my DHCP server won't >> let me assign the same IP to two different MACs. Robert G (Doc) Savage: > Use static IP addressing for both interfaces. Your DHCP server won't > care. I had the laptop always on DHCP so it can work anywhere without me

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: Tim via users Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Tim Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 11:26:29 +0930 On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > It has nothing to

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 6:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: It has nothing to do with NetworkManager. If both interfaces are active at the same time, NetworkManager will set the ethernet port as the default. You can even have both interfaces with the same add

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > It has nothing to do with NetworkManager. If both interfaces are > active at the same time, NetworkManager will set the ethernet port as > the default. You can even have both interfaces with the same address > and everything still works. I

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 05:25, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > The "hard" block should only come from hardware.  If it was NetworkManager,  > it would be the "soft" block that gets set. > FWIW, that doesn't appear to be as clear cut as I expected.  I was able to resurrect a lap top running F32/KDE. It only has one

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 6:53 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: The toggling behavior between Ethernet and WiFi is not new. It has been standard on the P72 since I purchased it and installed F29 in November 2018. I seem to recall the same behavior in the ThinkPad W700 laptop that the P72 replaced. I

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: Fedora Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 16:30:30 +0800 On 2020-05-31 15:56, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 5/31/20 12:

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: George N. White III Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:07 -0300 On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:31, Ed Greshko wrote: > I looked back in

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Kevin Becker
I haven't followed this thread at all but this is a common feature on many laptops. There is often a BIOS setting for it. I didn't find the manual for the P72 in a quick search but the P71 manual turned up this BIOS option: Wireless Auto Disconnection Values: Disabled, Enabled Descriptions: Enab

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:31, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I looked back in the thread and I could find no indication that the Fn key > sequence was indicated to exist or > was tried. > > I understand that plugging in the ethernet cable results in a hard block. > However, it seems one should at least se

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:56, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at the same time.  But for some reason, your l

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected >>> at the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi  >>> disable when t

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi disable  when the ethernet cable is plugged in. FWIW, this article

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: > That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at > the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi disable  > when the ethernet cable is plugged in. FWIW, this article https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/sk/p

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
Bringing this back to the list. The message I'm replying to was too large for the list, so he sent it directly to me. On 5/30/20 6:49 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote: The "systemctl -b" output is 4099 lines long, so rummaging around for KILL is a tall order. Allow me to suggest a slightly diff

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/30/20 2:44 PM, Lester M Petrie wrote: On 5/30/20 5:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/29/20 2:12 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 00:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: The "hard" block should only come fro

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-30 Thread Lester M Petrie
On 5/30/20 5:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/29/20 2:12 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: >> On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 00:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: >>> > > The "hard" block should only come from hardware.  If it was > NetworkM

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/29/20 2:12 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 00:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: Is that the only references to rfkill? Did the log start at boot up? Try searching also for "KILL", it's likely in the wif

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-29 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 00:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > Is that the only references to rfkill? Did the log start at boot up? > Try searching also for "KILL", it's likely in the wifi device > initialization. No, it was just a group o

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-29 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 00:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > Here's what "journalctl -b" tells me: > > > > May 27 16:48:50 tiger.protogeek.org rfkill[14554]: unblock set for > > all > > May 27 16:48:50 tiger.protogeek.org audit[1]: SERVICE_

Re: Multipart issues (WAS: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72)

2020-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 12:12 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 13:20 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 19:55 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > > I don't know Evolution, but if it's presenting choices for > > > the multipart/alternative part, then that latte

Multipart issues (WAS: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72)

2020-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 13:20 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 19:55 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > I don't know Evolution, but if it's presenting choices for > > the multipart/alternative part, then that latter text/plain > > part wouldn't be included as an option. > > When you

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 07:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-28 06:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > After being corrected by Todd, I see what you mean by the blank line. > > But > > > 3. > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding:

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/27/20 3:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: Here's what "journalctl -b" tells me: May 27 16:48:50 tiger.protogeek.org rfkill[14554]: unblock set for all May 27 16:48:50 tiger.protogeek.org audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:in

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 10:29 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 07:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Now I have to be distracted looking for a better theme. :-) > > Isn't that what Microsoft does? > > Gives you pointless user-configuration toys for the look of your > desktop, to di

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 19:55 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > I don't know Evolution, but if it's presenting choices for > the multipart/alternative part, then that latter text/plain > part wouldn't be included as an option. When you have a mail with multiple parts, there should be some sane logic ap

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 07:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Now I have to be distracted looking for a better theme. :-) Isn't that what Microsoft does? Gives you pointless user-configuration toys for the look of your desktop, to distract you from the terrible user-experience of actually using the OS.

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 07:55, Todd Zullinger wrote: > I don't know Evolution, but if it's presenting choices for > the multipart/alternative part, then that latter text/plain > part wouldn't be included as an option. I don't know Evolution either.  As expected, I see the same structure you presented. Now

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-28 06:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > After being corrected by Todd, I see what you mean by the blank line. > > But > >> 3. >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >> Content-Disposition: inline

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 06:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: After being corrected by Todd, I see what you mean by the blank line. But > 3. > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: inline > (the base64 version of the text)

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 07:03, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-28 06:00, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>> Nope, not an issue on Patrick's end. The text/plain part of >>> the message in questionwas empty (effectively, it contained >>> only a base64-encoded CR/LF). >> Odd >> >> My source

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-28 06:00, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Nope, not an issue on Patrick's end. The text/plain part of >> the message in questionwas empty (effectively, it contained >> only a base64-encoded CR/LF). > > Odd > > My source of the original message contains That's the fir

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:39 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/27/20 2:02 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 11:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 5/27/20 11:08 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 06:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-28 06:00, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Nope, not an issue on Patrick's end. The text/plain part of > > the message in questionwas empty (effectively, it contained > > only a base64-encoded CR/LF). > > Odd > > My source of the ori

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 06:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 18:00 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 2020-05-28 04:44, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: (Apparently an empty mess

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread bmillett
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and moving it to > > the livig room, I could not resume F32 when I raised the lid. I had > > to hard power cycle it, and after boot

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 06:00, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Nope, not an issue on Patrick's end. The text/plain part of > the message in questionwas empty (effectively, it contained > only a base64-encoded CR/LF). Odd My source of the original message contains --=-V2saX3G33UU4OPBTEaCs Content-Type: text/p

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 18:00 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 2020-05-28 04:44, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users > > > wrote: > > > > > > (Apparently an empty message) > > > > > > In fact it's HTML only. If y

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 17:11 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users > > wrote: > > > > (Apparently an empty message) > > > > In fact it's HTML only. If you post in HTML please always include a > > plaintext/a

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-28 04:44, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users >> wrote: >> >> (Apparently an empty message) >> >> In fact it's HTML only. If you post in HTML please always include a >> plaintext/alternative section. >> >> >

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-28 04:44, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users > wrote: > > (Apparently an empty message) > > In fact it's HTML only. If you post in HTML please always include a > plaintext/alternative section. > > Best to check the source.  I

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/27/20 2:02 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 11:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/27/20 11:08 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: After c

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users > wrote: > > (Apparently an empty message) > > In fact it's HTML only. If you post in HTML please always include a > plaintext/alternative section. Though it's even better to follow the list guideline

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 11:37 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/27/20 11:08 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > > > After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 13:08 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: (Apparently an empty message) In fact it's HTML only. If you post in HTML please always include a plaintext/alternative section. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/27/20 11:08 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and moving it to the livig room, I could not resume F32 when I raised the

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
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Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and moving it to the livig room, I could not resume F32 when I raised the lid. I had to hard power cycle it, and after bootup I was unable to connect to my WiFi router. The router is fine

Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-27 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and moving it to the livig room, I could not resume F32 when I raised the lid. I had to hard power cycle it, and after bootup I was unable to connect to my WiFi router. The router is fine, and WiFi works fine in the dual-booted Windows 10. But I can'