Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/07/2015 02:49 PM, jd1008 wrote: Gosh ... I must say I just don't have enough of a mean streak to do that :) :) This isn't about being mean, it's about telling the truth. But I do know this: What goes around, comes around. As was said more than 2000 years ago: "Do unto others as you wo

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread jd1008
On 07/07/2015 04:22 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I understan, Ranjan Ji, But I do have to be careful about karmic repercussions that could bite me sometime in the future. Spreading negative impressions could indeed backfile on the spreader :) :) Do you know what the word "karma" actually means? I

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> I understan, Ranjan Ji, > But I do have to be careful about karmic repercussions that > could bite me sometime in the future. > Spreading negative impressions could indeed backfile on the > spreader :) :) Do you know what the word "karma" actually means? In any case, we are not suggesting that

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread jd1008
On 07/07/2015 03:43 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:25:53 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/07/2015 02:08 PM, jd1008 wrote: After I made my comment on this list, got email from Ebay that the seller has relented and accepted to make a full refund and emailed me a free shipping label

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread jd1008
On 07/07/2015 03:25 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/07/2015 02:08 PM, jd1008 wrote: After I made my comment on this list, got email from Ebay that the seller has relented and accepted to make a full refund and emailed me a free shipping label. Case closed :) :) Not quite. Once you've received the

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/15 05:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I agree. (S)he should get a negative remark. Then other buyers will know that > the seller needs prodding to act in good faith and also that Ebay at least > sometimes enforces policies (it is not all a lost cause). I believe the majority of this thread

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 14:25:53 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/07/2015 02:08 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > After I made my comment on this list, got email from Ebay > > that the seller has relented and accepted to make a full refund > > and emailed me a free shipping label. > > Case closed :) :) > > Not quit

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/07/2015 02:08 PM, jd1008 wrote: After I made my comment on this list, got email from Ebay that the seller has relented and accepted to make a full refund and emailed me a free shipping label. Case closed :) :) Not quite. Once you've received the refund, make a comment on the seller's pa

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread jd1008
On 07/07/2015 01:42 PM, g wrote: On 07/07/15 10:13, jd1008 wrote: <<>> go back to ebay page that you ordered from to see if there is ability to make comment about seller. You bet there is. If the seller refuses to replace with good one, Ebay will confiscate money from their account and cr

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread g
On 07/07/15 10:13, jd1008 wrote: <<>> >> go back to ebay page that you ordered from to see if there is ability >> to make comment about seller. >> >> > You bet there is. > If the seller refuses to replace with good one, > Ebay will confiscate money from their account and credit mine. > > that i

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-07 Thread jd1008
On 07/07/2015 12:03 AM, g wrote: On 07/06/15 22:22, jd1008 wrote: <<>> I plan to do both :) This is why I use AmEx. They fully refund for merchandise that does not work. They are able to extract that from the merchant. Don't ask me how :) They have done it for me before. it is in the 'toa',

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread g
On 07/06/15 22:22, jd1008 wrote: <<>> > I plan to do both :) > This is why I use AmEx. > They fully refund for merchandise that does not work. > They are able to extract that from the merchant. > Don't ask me how :) They have done it for me before. it is in the 'toa', 'terms of agreement'. cred

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread jd1008
On 07/06/2015 09:17 PM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, So, I contacted the Ebay seller rakicomputers and reported the issue. The seller first told me something wrong with my laptop. So I replied that the old cpu still boots just fine - u

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread jd1008
On 07/06/2015 08:54 PM, g wrote: On 07/06/15 21:13, jd1008 wrote: <<>> So, I took out the new cpu, and put back in the old cpu. Fedora booted just fine - All is working - but of course, it still freezes or panics after a few minutes (2 - 5 minutes). So, I contacted the Ebay seller

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, So, I contacted the Ebay seller rakicomputers and reported the issue. The seller first told me something wrong with my laptop. So I replied that the old cpu still boots just fine - until it gets too hot and the it freezes or crash

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread g
On 07/06/15 21:13, jd1008 wrote: <<>> > So, I took out the new cpu, and put back in the old cpu. > Fedora booted just fine - All is working - but of course, > it still freezes or panics after a few minutes (2 - 5 minutes). > > So, I contacted the Ebay seller >

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread jd1008
On 07/06/2015 03:40 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 06/28/2015 05:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: Final update after installing latest BIOS version 49 from HP. While logged into win 7, 2 minutes later, and the machine still cold, it crashed! And this happened 3 times. The place I am at is a very cold cafe. Even

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-07-06 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 05:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: Final update after installing latest BIOS version 49 from HP. While logged into win 7, 2 minutes later, and the machine still cold, it crashed! And this happened 3 times. The place I am at is a very cold cafe. Even though outside temp is in the 90's, here

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread g
On 06/28/2015 06:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: <> > So I think the CPU needs to be replaced. from all that you have done and posted, you may well be correct. cpu manufactures have stress testing progs that at one time could be pulled for running on one's system. another good stress test is running pri

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
Final update after installing latest BIOS version 49 from HP. While logged into win 7, 2 minutes later, and the machine still cold, it crashed! And this happened 3 times. The place I am at is a very cold cafe. Even though outside temp is in the 90's, here at the cafe, it is about 71 (thermostat)

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread g
On 06/28/2015 12:55 PM, jd1008 wrote: <<>> > OP g said that his infrared thermometer records boiling water > at 211 °F. I thought he lived in Denver, Co at more than 5000+ feet. it was misleading. i left out "@ sea level". the long conversion formula is show at; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/28/2015 11:35 AM, jd1008 wrote: Thanx for this cullniary info. If there are such bugs in OS'es and Apps, guess I will throw my laptop into a large vat of boiling oil :) :) I'm not *just* a computer geek; I'm also a cooking geek, among other things. Glad to have been of service. -- us

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 June 2015, jd1008 sent: > If there are such bugs in OS'es and Apps, guess > I will throw my laptop into a large vat of boiling oil :) :) We've all felt that way, from time to time... -- [tim@localhost ~]$ All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no po

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/28/2015 10:59 AM, jd1008 wrote: So, if there are "bugs" in something being cooked, and said bugs cannot die at 204 °F, then . :) :) Only if you're trying to kill them by boiling. At sea level, most oils boil at about 350 F, and even in Denv

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/28/2015 10:59 AM, jd1008 wrote: So, if there are "bugs" in something being cooked, and said bugs cannot die at 204 °F, then . :) :) Only if you're trying to kill them by boiling. At sea level, most oils boil at about 350 F, and even in Denver they'll be well above the boiling point

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/28/2015 10:55 AM, jd1008 wrote: OP g said that his infrared thermometer records boiling water at 211 °F. I thought he lived in Denver, Co at more than 5000+ feet. An IR thermometer records the surface temperature, not how hot it is on the inside. HTH, HAND. -- users mailing list users@

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 11:43 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/28/2015 10:03 AM, jd1008 wrote: I have an electronic digital thermometer, the tip of which is inserted into the boiling water. At my location, it reported that boiling water is at 204 °F We are only at about 4250 feet above sea level. So I think t

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 11:24 AM, Ronal B Morse wrote: On 06/28/2015 11:03 AM, jd1008 wrote: ice = 32.0 °F | 00.00 °C. water boiling point = 211.9 °F | 99.97 °C Thanx G. I have an electronic digital thermometer, the tip of which is inserted into the boiling water. At my location, it reported that boil

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/28/2015 10:03 AM, jd1008 wrote: I have an electronic digital thermometer, the tip of which is inserted into the boiling water. At my location, it reported that boiling water is at 204 °F We are only at about 4250 feet above sea level. So I think the thermometer is fibbing :) That's rough

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Ronal B Morse
On 06/28/2015 11:03 AM, jd1008 wrote: ice = 32.0 °F | 00.00 °C. water boiling point = 211.9 °F | 99.97 °C Thanx G. I have an electronic digital thermometer, the tip of which is inserted into the boiling water. At my location, it reported that boiling water is at 204 °F We are only at about 4250

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 01:48 AM, g wrote: On 06/27/2015 07:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 06/27/2015 05:59 PM, g wrote: what is 'sensors' telling you about temp and speed? I had no chance to even start lmsensors. It was a first boot after install of fc20. Also, found: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Non-Cont

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/28/2015 01:41 AM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 13:21 -0600, jd1008 wrote: I noticed that during the installation of fc20, the air coming out of the exhaust vent was almost scalding if I kept my finger there for about a minute or so. By scalding, I mean if I had touched a metal surfac

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread jd1008
On 06/27/2015 10:13 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: On 06/27/15 21:21, jd1008 wrote: On 05/29/2015 08:18 AM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/23/15 19:08, jd1008 wrote: I have an HP laptop with AMD Turion II X2 mobile processor RM-72 / 2.1 GHz CPU, Socket S1. It is now causing blue screens in windo

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread g
On 06/27/2015 07:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: > On 06/27/2015 05:59 PM, g wrote: >> what is 'sensors' telling you about temp and speed? > I had no chance to even start lmsensors. > It was a first boot after install of fc20. > > Also, found: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Non-Contact-LCD-IR-Laser-Infrared

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-28 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 13:21 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > I noticed that during the installation of fc20, the air coming > out of the exhaust vent was almost scalding if I kept my finger there > for about a minute or so. By scalding, I mean if I had touched > a metal surface of that temperature for say 30

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-27 Thread jd1008
On 06/27/2015 05:59 PM, g wrote: what is 'sensors' telling you about temp and speed? I had no chance to even start lmsensors. It was a first boot after install of fc20. Also, found: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Non-Contact-LCD-IR-Laser-Infrared-Digital-Temperature-Thermometer-Gun-FO-/29132665

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-27 Thread g
On 06/27/2015 02:21 PM, jd1008 wrote: <<>> > I noticed that during the installation of fc20, the air coming > out of the exhaust vent was almost scalding if I kept my finger there > for about a minute or so. By scalding, I mean if I had touched > a metal surface of that temperature for say 30 se

Re: Replacing cpu

2015-06-27 Thread jd1008
On 05/29/2015 08:18 AM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/23/15 19:08, jd1008 wrote: I have an HP laptop with AMD Turion II X2 mobile processor RM-72 / 2.1 GHz CPU, Socket S1. It is now causing blue screens in windows, and freezes fbsd, pclinuxos, knoppix, fedora live. I have run the x86 mem tes