Re: How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

2023-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron said: > I suppose I could set up the laptops so that they log into the VPN > at boot, that would do the same thing and the staff on the Linux > laptops wouldn't have to do anything manual. But I don't want to > chew up that VPN bandwidth if I don't have to. If you

Re: How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

2023-12-21 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
On 12/21/23 14:39, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron said: So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux team sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this list talk about

Re: How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

2023-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron said: > So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to > Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux > team sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this > list talk about TeamViewer and AnyDesk, but both

How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

2023-12-21 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
In my company, we're rolling out Linux laptops to my team. We're 100% remote workers, no one even lives in the same state as the headquarters. If my teammates are logged into the VPN, it's pretty easy to administer a team member's laptop - I just ask the user for the IP address and ssh in as t

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 31 May 2012 22:31:11 +0700 Khemara Lyn wrote: > Thanks, > It is far better than i thought. i would love to try the ssh tunnel and > access by VNC to the display 0 also. Please forgive me for the poor > suggestion. I thought i could help; in fact, i learn new thing from that :). x11vnc

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Khemara Lyn
Thanks, It is far better than i thought. i would love to try the ssh tunnel and access by VNC to the display 0 also. Please forgive me for the poor suggestion. I thought i could help; in fact, i learn new thing from that :). Regards, Khem On 05/31/2012 04:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 31.0

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/31/2012 01:36 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: > There's no problem really except that it's an additional manual step > I'd like to avoid. Oh, I *see*. I thought you couldn't connect. :-) Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Tommy Pham
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 05/29/2012 09:22 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: >>>> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.05.2012 11:19, schrieb Khemara Lyn: > Hello, > > Have you tried with "vino"? I prefer it than a separate VNC server with a > separate display. > > With Vino, I can log in locally to my desktop at office; i would lock the > screen when i leave my office and when i > arrive home i would c

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Khemara Lyn
2 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? I don't get the problem. You don't have to be logged in on the console, or anything like that. You just have to be able to sta

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-31 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/29/2012 09:22 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: >>> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user >>> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a sy

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > the main question is where you missed my post about the package > replying "I just installed that package prior to your response" > but who cares, now it works :-) > > Sorry, I meant I just installed the tigervnc package. It's been a lo

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.05.2012 00:10, schrieb Tommy Pham: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: Name : tigervnc-server-module Architektur : x86_64 Version: 1.1.0 Ausgabe: 3.fc16 Größe : 606 k Repo: i

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: >>> Name       : tigervnc-server-module >>> Architektur : x86_64 >>> Version    : 1.1.0 >>> Ausgabe    : 3.fc16 >>> Größe : 606 k >>> Repo        : installed >>> Zusammenfassung     : TigerVNC modu

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: >> Name : tigervnc-server-module >> Architektur : x86_64 >> Version: 1.1.0 >> Ausgabe: 3.fc16 >> Größe : 606 k >> Repo: installed >> Zusammenfassung : TigerVNC module to Xorg >> URL: http://www.tigervnc.com >> Lizenz :

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.05.2012 22:33, schrieb Tommy Pham: >> I still can't seem to get this right :(.  This is what I have. >> >> [root@ogx280 init.d]# rpm -qa|grep -i vnc >> gtk-vnc2-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 >> gtk-vnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 >> gvnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i68

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2012 22:33, schrieb Tommy Pham: > I still can't seem to get this right :(. This is what I have. > > [root@ogx280 init.d]# rpm -qa|grep -i vnc > gtk-vnc2-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > gtk-vnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > gvnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > tigervnc-license-1.1.0-5.fc17.noarch > libvncserver-0.9.8.2-

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
gt; On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user >>>>> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/29/2012 01:26 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/29/2012 12:00 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user to be logged in (automatically

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/29/2012 12:00 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? You could

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Tommy Pham
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: >> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user >> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? > > I don't get the problem.  You

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: > Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user > to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? I don't get the problem. You don't have to be logged in on the console, or anything like that. You

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Tommy Pham
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user >> to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? > >

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? You could share the display in the X configs, e.g.: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-vnc.conf # This file

remote access via VNC

2012-05-29 Thread Tommy Pham
Hi, Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)? Thanks, Tommy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Remote access

2011-10-17 Thread Reindl Harald
and his boss is "perfectly legitimate" to fire him form one day to the next it does even not matter if there si any firewall to pierce, it is enough taht a policy/admin says "it is not allowed" to fire you if you are doing it peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing other on

Re: Remote access

2011-10-15 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 23:28 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his > views on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to > worry. Yes. I've had to deal with sabotaging people before, and you are best rid of them, before some

Re: Remote access

2011-10-15 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 23:05 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system > seize to make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them. There's a big difference between calling stupidity to attention, and deliberately breaking the rules rat

Re: Remote access

2011-10-15 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 22:04 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Rules are made to be broken... ;-) Do people not understand what that quote means? It's not that you're meant to break the rules. It's that people are expected to get caught infringing them, and suffer punishment. -- [tim@localhost ~]

Re: Remote access

2011-10-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/14/2011 05:08 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Oh, yes, you're absolutely right. Sorry for my English, it occasionally gets > buggy... :-) I doubt that even a spell-checker could help me with that one. That's what I kind of figured. BTW, I'm getting some bounces on your email again. -- users

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Yes, it appears to be a problem for some people in this thread. And, if you'll pardon my mentioning it, you... > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize to > make actual sense, it is legitimate t

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/15/2011 02:21 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/14/2011 08:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views >> on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry. > I'd be looking for his replacement. :-) -- Even if you do le

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 23:18:17 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/14/2011 03:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize > > to make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them. > > This made absolutely no sense at all until I suddenly

Re: Remote Access

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/14/2011 04:17 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > On Fri October 14 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: > [snip] >> And, I just figured out the correct response to anybody who thinks it's >> legitimate to do something like this "because I think I need it" even >> after being told that it's against company policy: >>

Re: Remote Access

2011-10-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 10/14/2011 11:50 AM, Bill Perry wrote: > The computer security guys were somewhat arrogant, they basically said > if you can figure out a way around our firewalls, go ahead, but we won't > create a hole for you. > > A couple of days later I had the remot

Re: Remote Access

2011-10-14 Thread John Aldrich
On Fri October 14 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: [snip] > And, I just figured out the correct response to anybody who thinks it's > legitimate to do something like this "because I think I need it" even > after being told that it's against company policy: > > "What *was* your username?" > > Hehe...reminds

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/14/2011 03:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize to > make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them. This made absolutely no sense at all until I suddenly realized that the word you meant was "cease." -- users mail

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 14:02:25 Ian Malone wrote: > On 14 October 2011 13:16, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to > > break the rules. If instead you teach people why they should uphold the > > rules, it *is* *not* legitimate for them

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 16:28:17 Ed Greshko wrote: > All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views > on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry. Oh, I understand you completely! :-) The opinion that I have comes from the experience of being

Re: Remote Access

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/14/2011 11:50 AM, Bill Perry wrote: > The computer security guys were somewhat arrogant, they basically said > if you can figure out a way around our firewalls, go ahead, but we won't > create a hole for you. > > A couple of days later I had the remote access going and I

Remote Access

2011-10-14 Thread Bill Perry
arged with a crime. The computer security guys were somewhat arrogant, they basically said if you can figure out a way around our firewalls, go ahead, but we won't create a hole for you. A couple of days later I had the remote access going and I showed them how it worked. They were amazed

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/14/2011 08:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views > on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry. I'd be looking for his replacement. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 01:03:49AM +1030, Tim wrote: > Quite how you come to that conclusion, I don't know. If you're refused > permission, then that's the *opposite* from being legitimate to try to > do so. Not only did you originally discover that it was blocked, you're > being outright told th

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Rick Sewill
On Friday, October 14, 2011 10:25:59 AM Rick Sewill wrote: > On Friday, October 14, 2011 06:05:29 AM Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote: > > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access > > > to a system

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/14/2011 10:40 PM, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:16 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to >> break the rules. > Bullshit! You should look up what the word actually means. It's > synonymous with: > according to the ru

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Rick Sewill
On Friday, October 14, 2011 06:05:29 AM Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote: > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to > > a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind > >

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:16 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to > break the rules. Bullshit! You should look up what the word actually means. It's synonymous with: according to the rules and requirements, authorised... Th

RE: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:58 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused, > I think it is perfectly legitimate to DIY and pierce a connection > through. > > Best, :-) > Marko Quite how you come to that conclusion, I don't know. If you

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 October 2011 13:16, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2011 12:33:25 Reindl Harald wrote: >> peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing >> other ones > > I am not enforcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice. > I think the word is encouraging. > > I

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:33:25 Reindl Harald wrote: > peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing > other ones I am not enforcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice. > to break policies which you and we do not understand > from outside and there is only one person

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:02:43 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Have you ever crossed the street when the red light was on for pedestrians, > in > a situation when there were no vehicles in the street? Was that legitimate? > Was it legal? Was the rule enforceable? Was breaking the rule possible? On

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 October 2011 12:26, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > However, every serious firewall admin should know that the firewall is a > one-way > barrier, protecting local users from the outside attack, and having in > principle no way to protect the outside world from the local user. Or in the > words of

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:42:03 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/14/2011 07:26 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > > A firewall cannot protect a network against its own internal users, and > > should not even try to. > > > > > > So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused, I >

RE: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Marko Vojinovic Sent: vrijdag 14 oktober 2011 13:26 To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Remote access On Friday 14 October 2011 05:32:23 Scott

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/14/2011 07:26 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > A firewall cannot protect a network against its own internal users, and should > not even try to. > > > So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused, I think > it is perfectly legitimate to DIY and pierce a connection thro

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote: > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a > system? I have a little shell script I run on my desktop at work that has it's own copy of ssh-agent holding my home system public key info. It runs an ssh c

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:32:23 Scott Rouse wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM, "KC8LDO" wrote: > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to > > a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind > >

Re: Remote access

2011-10-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote: > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a > system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind a > company firewall, which I have no control over, that I wish to gain access > t

Re: Remote access

2011-10-13 Thread Alain Spineux
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:13 AM, KC8LDO wrote: > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a > system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind a > company firewall, which I have no control over, that I wish to gain access > t

Re: Remote access

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Rouse
On Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM, "KC8LDO" wrote: > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a > system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind a > company firewall, which I have no control over, that I wish to gain acc

Remote access

2011-10-13 Thread KC8LDO
Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind a company firewall, which I have no control over, that I wish to gain access to by logging into it over the Internet from a remote computer. In