Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/20 2:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: As I mentioned, I got the same expected results in Ubuntu as I did in Fedora for the each of the file system types tested. Most of the time I do too; that's why I didn't test it on Fedora before asking. My sister has an account at the Ubuntu forum, and

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/11/2020 02:34, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 9:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: You don't think someone could mistake not being able to write to the drive because of an ownership/permission as it being "read-only"? The permissions are full for root, and r-x for everybody else. Which isn't equ

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/11/2020 02:34, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 9:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: You don't think someone could mistake not being able to write to the drive because of an ownership/permission as it being "read-only"? The permissions are full for root, and r-x for everybody else. Oh, additionally

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/20 7:44 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It seems what's described here is that, for some odd reason, the flash drives get mounted occasionally as read-only, so this is not an ownership issue. On Ubuntu, at least, it gets mounted with an ownership of root:root. _

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/20 9:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: You don't think someone could mistake not being able to write to the drive because of an ownership/permission as it being "read-only"? The permissions are full for root, and r-x for everybody else. ___ users m

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 27/11/2020 00:31, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/11/2020 22:44, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 26/11/2020 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/11/2020 00:31, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/11/2020 22:44, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 26/11/2020 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way on it.  The system mo

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/11/2020 22:44, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 26/11/2020 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way on it.  The system mounts it for me, as me.  It is ubuntu 20.

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 26/11/2020 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way on it.  The system mounts it for me, as me.  It is ubuntu 20.04 if that makes any difference. Most of

RE: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
-Original Message- From: Tim via users Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:40 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Tim Subject: Re: Read-only flash drives On Thu, 2020-11-26 at 07:36 +, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: > Once in a while we come across thumb-drives, that af

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-11-26 at 07:36 +, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: > Once in a while we come across thumb-drives, that after using a > couple of times, can’t even be reformatted. Some people leave them plugged in all the time, and although they think only that they're using them occasionally, they'

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/11/2020 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way on it.  The system mounts it for me, as me.  It is ubuntu 20.04 if that makes any difference. Most of the time, flash drives

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/20 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and the same flash drive that I used on Fedora works the same way on it.  The system mounts it for me, as me.  It is ubuntu 20.04 if that makes any difference. Most of the time, flash drives mount properly for my sister too. Onc

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
rs@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Subject: Read-only flash drives Every now and then I buy a flash drive and find that when I mount it it's owned by root and read only except by root. I can, of course, change that by using chown and chmod, but that only lasts until I unmount the drive. Generally

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/11/2020 14:00, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/25/20 6:06 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: Or just copy/paste the output of ‘mount’. *Sigh!*  The drive we're having trouble with works Just Fine on my Fedora box, but not on my sister's Ubuntu box.  Not a Fedora issue. FWIW, I have a Ubuntu VM and th

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/20 6:06 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: Or just copy/paste the output of ‘mount’. *Sigh!* The drive we're having trouble with works Just Fine on my Fedora box, but not on my sister's Ubuntu box. Not a Fedora issue. ___ users mailing list --

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/11/2020 12:02, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/25/20 7:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/25/20 4:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: What filesystem is on it and how are you mounting it? I'd presume VFAT, and I'm just inserting the drive and letting the OS do its thing, and my sister's doing the same way o

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/25/20 7:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/25/20 4:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: What filesystem is on it and how are you mounting it? I'd presume VFAT, and I'm just inserting the drive and letting the OS do its thing, and my sister's doing the same way on Ubuntu. I've never had a problem with

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/20 4:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: What filesystem is on it and how are you mounting it? I'd presume VFAT, and I'm just inserting the drive and letting the OS do its thing, and my sister's doing the same way on Ubuntu. ___ users mailing list -

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 25, 2020, at 19:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > --> gparted: select the flash drive from the pull down in >the upper right > > --> View > > --> device information > > Post a screen shot over on [redacted] Or just copy/paste the output of ‘mount’. -- Jonathan Billings

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-25 15:05, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/25/20 3:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Every now and then I buy a flash drive and find that when I mount it it's owned by root and read only except by root.  I can, of course, change that by using chown and chmod, but that only lasts until I unmount the dr

Re: Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/25/20 3:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Every now and then I buy a flash drive and find that when I mount it it's owned by root and read only except by root.  I can, of course, change that by using chown and chmod, but that only lasts until I unmount the drive.  Generally, I need to reformat the d

Read-only flash drives

2020-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
Every now and then I buy a flash drive and find that when I mount it it's owned by root and read only except by root. I can, of course, change that by using chown and chmod, but that only lasts until I unmount the drive. Generally, I need to reformat the drive to get it working properly. And