Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 10:17 AM, jdow wrote: > Oh really! You mean Alan Cox was right about F18? Hm FWIW, the problem has been pinpointed to changes in /usr/bin/login. Taking login from F17 "fixes" the issue https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/1/15/641 -- Programming today is a race between software e

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 03:17 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/29/2013 10:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I just installed the f17 rpm on the f18 system and it fails in the >> same way. > > I never asked... Does telnetd work on F17 or would we have to go back further > to find a working version? Yes, it works

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/29/2013 10:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I just installed the f17 rpm on the f18 system and it fails in the same way. I never asked... Does telnetd work on F17 or would we have to go back further to find a working version? Sorry, not looking for a replacement. You don't need to apologize

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 02:42 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? > >>> I just did, and I didn't add -D, but I di

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 01:54 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/28/2013 07:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut >> this shouldn't make a difference. > > Actually, it might. I ran strace on the telnetd process, which should mostly > proxy data betw

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread David G . Miller
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > > On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? > > I just did, and I didn't add -D, but I did change "disabled = yes" to "no" > > in the telnet

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/28/2013 07:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Actually, it might. I ran strace on the telnetd process, which should mostly proxy data between a child process (login, at that point) and the sock

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 10:13 AM, Richard Sewill wrote: > My question may be a red herring, but could there be anything in > your .bash_profile, .bashrc, ... etc files behaving differently between F17 > and F18, > causing problems during telnet login? Very doubtful for 3 reasons. 1. the user account

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 18:07, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:00 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wro

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Sewill
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: > > > > On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > First No need to bring up the ss

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 10:00 AM, jdow wrote: > On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: >>> >>> On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> First N

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: > > On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for u

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't ma

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 02:56 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > . > > > > FWIW, there are times where telnet is the only viable option. We have an > > internal system running a real old version of Unix used for X.400/X.25 > > communication for which ssh is not an option. > > > > But that would be the unix serv

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread James Hogarth
. > > FWIW, there are times where telnet is the only viable option. We have an internal system running a real old version of Unix used for X.400/X.25 communication for which ssh is not an option. > But that would be the unix server running telnet and not the Linux system as in this case Ther

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:22 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 22:19:24 +0800, > Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Thank you for ignoring the very first sentence and reciting the obvious. > > Sorry about that. I saw two threads about it and didn't read the second one > very carefully. OK.

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >>> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >> shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did t

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 22:19:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Thank you for ignoring the very first sentence and reciting the obvious. Sorry about that. I saw two threads about it and didn't read the second one very carefully. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 09:53 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58 +0800, > Ed Greshko wrote: >> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >> >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >> shouldn't make a difference. Anyway,

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. > Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this > shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. I just did, and I didn't

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. Most people aren't going t