Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 10:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 6:37 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/9/18 6:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I decided to see what I would lose by removing network-scripts. Nothing I can't live without now that I have nm-ifup/down. You still have ifup and ifdown

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/9/18 6:37 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/9/18 6:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I decided to see what I would lose by removing network-scripts. Nothing I can't live without now that I have nm-ifup/down. You still have ifup and ifdown. They are symlinks to the nm scripts.

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 7:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: dnf info I keep forgetting about that command. Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 6:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/18 10:37 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Uh Oh!  If I remove network-scripts, will I still have /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.ifcfg-  ?? [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts package network-scripts is not installed [egreshko@acer ~]$

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/18 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/10/18 10:37 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Uh Oh!  If I remove network-scripts, will I still >> have /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.ifcfg-  ?? > [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts > package network-scripts is not installed > > [egres

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/18 10:37 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Uh Oh!  If I remove network-scripts, will I still > have /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.ifcfg-  ?? [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts package network-scripts is not installed [egreshko@acer ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ if

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 6:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/9/18 2:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 2:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: The NetworkManager package contains ifup and ifdown scripts.  I don't see how there's any maintenance involved, sin

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 2:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 2:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: The NetworkManager package contains ifup and ifdown scripts.  I don't see how there's any maintenance involved, since they just call nmcli. The warning message just

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/18 6:28 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 12/8/18 10:46 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:31:34PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or two, that takes

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/9/18 2:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: The NetworkManager package contains ifup and ifdown scripts.  I don't see how there's any maintenance involved, since they just call nmcli. The warning message just says to use the scripts from NetworkMana

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/8/18 10:46 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:31:34PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or two, that takes a single parameter, and turns on or off the specified network inte

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread stan
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 14:43:13 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > The network-scripts package was created from initscripts in F29. You > probably can remove net-tools if you don't use those commands, but > it's fine to keep it for now. Thanks. I think I will just keep them. _

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/8/18 12:42 PM, stan wrote: On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 11:30:31 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: It doesn't. Remove the network-scripts package and everything will keep working and you won't see those warning messages. I don't find a package network-scripts. The ifup, ifdown, etc. scripts in /etc/sys

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread stan
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 11:30:31 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > It doesn't. Remove the network-scripts package and everything will > keep working and you won't see those warning messages. I don't find a package network-scripts. The ifup, ifdown, etc. scripts in /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts are fro

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/9/18 3:27 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/8/18 8:33 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> I also missed the memo. If this stackexchange post is correct,all the ifcfg-* >> configurations remain, but not the executable scripts (ifup,ifdown,..). >> Which is a LOT >> different than "'network-scripts' will be

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/8/18 10:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or two, that takes a single parameter, and turns on or off the specified network interface. And then calling those scripts "ifup" and "ifdown". Nothing prevents that, those scripts still e

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/8/18 8:33 AM, sean darcy wrote: I also missed the memo. If this stackexchange post is correct,all the ifcfg-* configurations remain, but not the executable scripts (ifup,ifdown,..). Which is a LOT different than "'network-scripts' will be removed from distribution in near future." But w

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/8/18 10:46 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:31:34PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or two, that takes a single parameter, and turns on or off the specified network interface. And then calling those scripts "if

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread sean darcy
On 12/8/18 1:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 11:58:18AM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: But who knows ? Maybe there is a memo. I'd be shocked if there was any public discussion of this, anywhere. Prepare to be shocked! We've talked about this quite a bit over the years. htt

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:31:34PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or > two, that takes a single parameter, and turns on or off the > specified network interface. And then calling those scripts "ifup" > and "ifdown". > > Why does this h

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Miller writes: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 11:58:18AM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >But who knows ? Maybe there is a memo. > I'd be shocked if there was any public discussion of this, anywhere. Prepare to be shocked! We've talked about this quite a bit over the years. https://lists.fedor

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 11:58:18AM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >But who knows ? Maybe there is a memo. > I'd be shocked if there was any public discussion of this, anywhere. Prepare to be shocked! We've talked about this quite a bit over the years. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
sean darcy writes: On 12/7/18 9:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I also missed the memo. If this stackexchange post is correct,all the ifcfg- * configurations remain, but not the executable scripts (ifup,ifdown,..). Which is a LOT different than "'network-scripts' will be removed from

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-08 Thread sean darcy
On 12/7/18 9:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, What is this all about? $ ifdown eno2 WARN  : [ifdown] You are using 'ifdown' script provided by 'network-scripts', which are now deprecated. WARN  : [ifdown] 'network-scripts' will be removed from distribution in near future.

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/7/18 6:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What is this all about? $ ifdown eno2 WARN  : [ifdown] You are using 'ifdown' script provided by 'network-scripts', which are now deprecated. WARN  : [ifdown] 'network-scripts' will be removed from distribution in near future. WARN 

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/8/18 10:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > What is this all about? > > $ ifdown eno2 > WARN  : [ifdown] You are using 'ifdown' script provided by > 'network-scripts', which > are now deprecated. > WARN  : [ifdown] 'network-scripts' will be removed from distribution in