Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-08 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/08/2016 05:53 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 08 March 2016, Cameron Simpson sent: That depends on your point of view. Technically, this whole thing: Cameron Simpson is my email address. A mail system is only meant to pay attention to certain parts of it for delivery purposes,

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 08 March 2016, Cameron Simpson sent: > That depends on your point of view. Technically, this whole thing: > > Cameron Simpson > > is my email address. A mail system is only meant to pay attention to > certain parts of it for delivery purposes, but it is _all_ "my > addre

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
m output. My message display index looks like this: 08Mar2016 17:19 Tim N ┌> Fedora 3.7K 08Mar2016 16:36 To Users - ┌> Fedora, Mine 2.2K 06Mar2016 16:17 jd1008- ├>Fedora 3.1K 06Mar2016 15

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Tim
Tim: >>Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the >>listed email dates into my local time. Cameron Simpson > Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display my local > time so that I have intuitive feel for the date of the messages. If you want to s

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Mar2016 15:15, Tim wrote: jd1008 As I replied to Rick Stevens on 03/04/2016 02:18 PM Mountain Standard Time. Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the listed email dates into my local time. Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread jd1008
On 03/05/2016 09:45 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Actually, I don't know that. I was of the understanding that fsck is not done on automounted devices, since I've never been aware of it jd1008 I stand corrected. You are right. I'm, also, fairly sure that auto file system checking is only done at boo

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Actually, I don't know that. I was of the understanding that fsck is >> not done on automounted devices, since I've never been aware of it jd1008 > I stand corrected. You are right. I'm, also, fairly sure that auto file system checking is only done at boot time, to things mentioned in t

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-05 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 10:12 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. Actually, I d

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:38 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 03/04/2016 08:25 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 > jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 >

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > All well and good. But I wish there were a dismissable banner on the > desktop notifying the user of this. Would be good... And would be good if the "wait before you unplug" warning when you eject/unmount a device was better, too. Sometimes

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects > insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount > it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. Actually, I don't know that. I was of the unde

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 08:25 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 > wrote: On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 > jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. >> Mounting and writing to it present no problems. >> However >> 1. sy

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 02:00 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb por

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mou

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 01:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, an

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. So, not sure about th

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 12:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/04/2016 11:28 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a f

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/04/2016 12:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: but as you know, fsck runs automagically when the system detects insertion into the usb port a storage device, and attempts to mount it, and find it was not shutdown cleanly, and runs the fsck. So, not sure about the "grip" :) I don't think that this is wh

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/04/2016 12:28 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular f

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/04/2016 11:44 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I'd agree with this. HFS+ is a journaled filesystem. Support for the journaling is fairly new to Linux and there may be some oopsies. In the past it wasn't even writable under Linux--you had to disable journaling on the filesystem on a Mac, then you cou

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2016 11:28 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular fi

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 March 2016, jd1008 sent: > I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. > Mounting and writing to it present no problems. > However > 1. sync command hangs Educated guess... file system fault? Is there a file system check program for that particular filing system. Hanging sync soun

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-04 Thread jd1008
On 03/03/2016 06:56 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 > wrote: I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. Mounting and writing to it present no problems. However 1. sync command hangs 2. umount of any hfsplus partion, hangs.

Re: hfsplus problems

2016-03-03 Thread Jack Craig
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, jd1008 wrote: > I have a 4tb hfsplus partition. > Mounting and writing to it present no problems. > However > 1. sync command hangs > 2. umount of any hfsplus partion, hangs. > 3. reboot hangs (it never reboots, forcing me to use the hard reset) > 4. shutdown now