Re: grub menu

2018-11-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/13/18 1:17 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/11/18 9:42 am, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:30:05 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: I would be questioning where that timeout code in grub.cfg came from Brand new in fedora 29 (possibly only if you install from scratch, not upgrade). M

Re: grub menu

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/11/18 9:42 am, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:30:05 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: I would be questioning where that timeout code in grub.cfg came from Brand new in fedora 29 (possibly only if you install from scratch, not upgrade). Maybe that's new functionality in F29, I'm st

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:30:05 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > I would be > questioning where that timeout code in grub.cfg came from Brand new in fedora 29 (possibly only if you install from scratch, not upgrade). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fed

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/11/18 3:26 am, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM Tom Horsley wrote: If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd chunk of gibberish: if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then if [ "${menu_show_once}" ]; then unset menu_show_once save_env menu_show_once

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:55 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:30 Markus Schönhaber wrote: >> Tom Horsley, Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:11:12 wrote: >>> >>> If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd >>> chunk of gibberish: >> >> Don't edit grub.cfg manually. > > Why not?, that's what

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:30:41 +0100 Markus Schönhaber wrote: > Tom Horsley, Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:11:12 -0500: > > > If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd > > chunk of gibberish: > > Don't edit grub.cfg manually. Why not?, that's what "grubby" does when installing a new kernel. The

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM Tom Horsley wrote: If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd chunk of gibberish: if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then if [ "${menu_show_once}" ]; then unset menu_show_once save_env menu_show_once set timeout_style=menu set

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd > chunk of gibberish: > > if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then > if [ "${menu_show_once}" ]; then > unset menu_show_once > save_env menu_show_once > set timeout_style=menu

Re: grub menu

2018-11-12 Thread ja
On Mon, 2018-11-12 at 08:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > If I edit the grub.cfg file and replace this absurd > chunk of gibberish: > > if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then > if [ "${menu_show_once}" ]; then > unset menu_show_once > save_env menu_show_once > set timeout_style=men

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-24 Thread Darr
On Tuesday, 24 August, 2010 @06:13 zulu, Michael Schwendt scribed: > Where is the confusion? Linux and Windows don't share their > swap partition with eachother, so a Suspend-To-Disk option in > addition to Suspend-To-RAM is useful. I'm not sure windows uses a separate swap space for its hibernat

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/24/2010 02:13 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:42:38 -0500, Aaron wrote: > >> Either get rid of the hibernate option or arrange for the Boot >> process to detect the record of the system state saved by hibernate. >> >> Currently hibernate is useless. > > What is useless

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:42:38 -0500, Aaron wrote: > Either get rid of the hibernate option or arrange for the Boot > process to detect the record of the system state saved by hibernate. > > Currently hibernate is useless. What is useless about it? Have you ever used it before? > Soo ir might as

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:51 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > You were lucky. Hibernating one OS, running another, and then waking > up the first can leave the hardware in unpredictable states (IIRC the > power management modes don't define support for that). Linux tries to > reset things, but it isn't

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Greg Woods said: > Yes, but I want to switch to Windows, and *then* return to Linux in the > same state. It is possible to do this, I have done it in the past and it > is quite a time saver, You were lucky. Hibernating one OS, running another, and then waking up the first can l

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:49 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Somewhere the point is missed. The whole point of hibernate is to be > able to return to the same operating system in the same state. So far, so good. > If you want to switch from Linux to Windows, restart does that. Yes, but I want to s

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:30 +, JB wrote: > Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > > > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > > > > > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to > > > have a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each > > > OS/distr

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:36 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > On 08/23/2010 08:48 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > >> On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>> > >>> I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > >>> Hibernate sa

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:30 +, JB wrote: > But if you present a menu selection between one Linux (hibernated) and Win, > then > the user, immediatelly or after finishing with Win, may decide to NOT return > to > last hibernated Linux, but instead select another Linux menu item, Sorry for no

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > > > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to > > have a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each > > OS/distro/kernel's machine state. > > Only the OS's that you care ab

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to have > a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each OS/distro/kernel's > machine state. Only the OS's that you care about hibernating. With just a Linux swap partitio

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:36 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > Grub is a general purpose boot loader. It does not know how to check > if there is an OS hibernating. I should also add that if the BIOS > supports it, and Linux know how to use it, it will resume directly > from disk without Grub ever entering th

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > > Which means to me that if you hibernate while in > > > Linux it should come back to Linux. > > I actually find it useful that it does not, and I have been frustrated

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Mikkel
On 08/23/2010 08:48 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> >>> I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. >>> Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to >>> hi

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Hoang Le
ersion ). Hoang Le From: Greg Woods To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 7:47:16 PM Subject: Re: grub menu is automatically skipped On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > &g

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > > Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to > > hibernate. When you return you load back the syst

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > > Which means to me that if you hibernate while in > > Linux it should come back to Linux. I actually find it useful that it does not, and I have been frustrated by the recent change in behavior. I used to be a

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > ... > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. Hi, Aaron is right about his amazement. info grub ... -- Command: default num Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and the entry numbe

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
it didn't work properly. From: Aaron Konstam To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:38:12 AM Subject: Re: grub menu is automatically skipped I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. Hibernate saves the

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Mikkel
On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to > hibernate. When you return you load back the system to the state you > had before hibernation. Which means

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 00:24 +0800, Hoang Le wrote: > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just > because the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my > laptop booted into fedora right away. Fed

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

Re: Grub-Menu takes ~30s to appear :/

2010-04-05 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, > IIRC, on older notebooks, there was a default time delay in the boot process > (setting in BIOS, I think) that allowed the hard drive time to spin up to > full speed before being accessed. > > I have a 10 year old IBM Thinkpad 240X (500MHz P4, dual boot W2k & Debian > Etch), and it does t

Re: Grub-Menu takes ~30s to appear :/

2010-04-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Since upgrading my old P4 based Laptop from Fedora-10 to > Fedora-11 the > bootloader takes a very long time to start. > I later upgraded to Fedora 12 (because of improvements in > the nouveau > driver) but that didn't help. > HDD is set to first boot

Re: Grub-Menu takes ~30s to appear :/

2010-04-05 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 04/05/2010 08:53 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi, > > Since upgrading my old P4 based Laptop from Fedora-10 to Fedora-11 the > bootloader takes a very long time to start. > I later upgraded to Fedora 12 (because of improvements in the nouveau > driver) but that didn't help. > HDD is set to firs