Re: entropy generation

2021-01-02 Thread Frank McCormick
On 1/1/21 9:06 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 6:40 PM Frank McCormick wrote: Running Fedora 33 under systemd. Lately my journal log has been spammed with hundreds of these lines: Jan 01 20:26:56 localhost.localdomain rngd[645]: Entropy Generation is slow, consider tuning/ad

Re: entropy generation

2021-01-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, 7:14 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 19:06:44 -0700 > Chris Murphy wrote: > > > You can remove the rng-tools package if you want. It's being removed > > in Fedora 34. > > So where does random data come from in f34? Kernel handles it. -- Chris Murphy __

Re: entropy generation

2021-01-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 19:06:44 -0700 Chris Murphy wrote: > You can remove the rng-tools package if you want. It's being removed > in Fedora 34. So where does random data come from in f34? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: entropy generation

2021-01-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 6:40 PM Frank McCormick wrote: > > Running Fedora 33 under systemd. > > Lately my journal log has been spammed with hundreds of these lines: > > Jan 01 20:26:56 localhost.localdomain rngd[645]: Entropy Generation is > slow, consider tuning/adding sources > Jan 01 20:26:56 lo

Re: Entropy

2020-10-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/6/20 4:13 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 10/6/20 6:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Entropy sources that are available but disabled 1: TPM RNG Device (tpm) 4: NIST Network Entropy Beacon (nist) Available and enabled entropy sources: 0: Hardware RNG Device (hwrng) 5: JITTER Entropy generator (jitte

Re: Entropy

2020-10-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 10/6/20 6:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/6/20 2:28 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: My system log is filled with dozens of this line: localhost.localdomain rngd[638]: Entropy Generation is slow, consider tuning/adding sources I see that mine is too. Is this something to be concerned about?

Re: Entropy

2020-10-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/6/20 2:28 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: My system log is filled with dozens of this line: localhost.localdomain rngd[638]: Entropy Generation is slow, consider tuning/adding sources I see that mine is too. Is this something to be concerned about? It depends on if you're doing anything

Re: Entropy

2020-10-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 17:28:24 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > Is this something to be concerned about? Doesn't matter if you are concerned, there isn't anything you can do about it unless you can get an add-on hardware random number generator that linux supports (a lot of laptops are coming with the

Re: Entropy from TPM of Fedora 23?

2016-05-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier | To: Community support for Fedora users | Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:27:53 -0400 (EDT) | Subject: Re: Entropy from TPM of Fedora 23? | | | From: D. Hugh Redelmeier | | | I don't know how to get the TPM to feed entropy to the Linux kernel RNG. | | Maybe a clue

Re: Entropy from TPM of Fedora 23?

2016-05-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier | I don't know how to get the TPM to feed entropy to the Linux kernel RNG. Maybe a clue here: sudo modprobe tpm-rng sudo ./rngd -f -v and now I've got lots of entropy in the pool. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 11 January 2010 15:51:20 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Tim wrote: > > Using psuedo code, what it did was: > > > > x = random number between 1 and 200 > > y = random number between 1 and 200 > > draw dot at x,y > > repeat > > Your "plot some graph" trick is actually a powerful way to det

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Tim wrote: > Using psuedo code, what it did was: > > x = random number between 1 and 200 > y = random number between 1 and 200 > draw dot at x,y > repeat > > Now, considering that the random number is generated from white noise, > there is no way for me to affect *how* the number is gener

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> One of my very old computers had a white noise generator for use by >> the random number function. One day I decided to test it by >> repeatedly polling it and using alternate polls as X and Y >> co-ordinates to place a mark on a graph. The images was, >> predominately, two fat parallel d

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Les
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 18:27 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 03:47 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > > it's just like a bunch of Physicists to go to all the trouble to > > build a randomness source out of a Geiger counter. A noisy resistor > > or diode would have done the job just

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 18:05 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > IMHO, 16 bit sampling of a mic with high gain will produce at least > 100 bit/s of entropy, especially in a noisy environment (server room > with a lot of fans). Sampling a microphone is likely to capture a regular pattern. Sampling a hig

Re: entropy

2010-01-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 03:47:56 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > > If our Monte Carlo had any kind of non-randomness in it, it would have > been very difficult for us to tell. It would have caused a systematic > error in the calculated acceptance, which would have caused a > systemati

Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 03:47 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > it's just like a bunch of Physicists to go to all the trouble to > build a randomness source out of a Geiger counter. A noisy resistor > or diode would have done the job just as well. One of my very old computers had a white noi

Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > But it's just like a bunch of Physicists to go to all the trouble to > build a randomness source out of a Geiger counter. A noisy resistor > or diode would have done the job just as well. IMHO, 16 bit sampling of a mic with high gain will produce at least 100 bi

Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
The Physics collaboration I was with at CERN a while back used a radioactive source and a Geiger counter to seed the random number generator used for their Monte Carlo simulations of the experiment's particle detector. High-quality randomness is important for such an application because the detect