Re: [FORGED] Re: Using Fedup

On Sat, 2015-06-20 at 14:29 +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 20/06/15 08:41, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 06/19/2015 01:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > > > I kind of surmised that that might be your point, but it was very > > > hard > > > to tell. There seems to be an overwhelming penchant on this list > >

Re: [FORGED] Re: Using Fedup

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 02:29:55PM +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 20/06/15 08:41, Joe Zeff wrote: > >On 06/19/2015 01:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > >>I kind of surmised that that might be your point, but it was very hard > >>to tell. There seems to be an overwhelming penchant on this list for > >>be

Re: [FORGED] Re: Using Fedup

On 20/06/15 08:41, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/19/2015 01:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: I kind of surmised that that might be your point, but it was very hard to tell. There seems to be an overwhelming penchant on this list for being mind-bogglingly cryptic, which is very counter-productive and very anno

Re: [FORGED] Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/2015 01:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: I kind of surmised that that might be your point, but it was very hard to tell. There seems to be an overwhelming penchant on this list for being mind-bogglingly cryptic, which is very counter-productive and very annoying. If you (anyone!) have somethi

Re: [FORGED] Re: Using Fedup

On 20/06/15 04:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 22:59 +0930, Tim wrote: Mickey: fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' (choose from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') Patrick O'Callaghan: Seriously? Can someone explain what product=

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/2015 11:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: IIRC several suggestions were made at the time, none of which were accepted. See for example the (long) thread at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/2014-December/013991.html I can't speak for anybody else, but I'd have thought that

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/2015 02:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2015-06-20 at 03:03 +0930, Tim wrote: Tim: Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually means? I've looked at , but it makes as much sense as sale=nosale, to me. Temlakos: Beginning with

Re: Using Fedup

On Sat, 2015-06-20 at 03:03 +0930, Tim wrote: > Tim: > > > Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually means? I've > > > looked at , but it makes as > > > much sense as sale=nosale, to me. > > > Temlakos: > > Beginning with F21, Fedora spun itself i

Re: Using Fedup

Tim: >> Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually means? I've >> looked at , but it makes as >> much sense as sale=nosale, to me. Temlakos: > Beginning with F21, Fedora spun itself into three main flavors: > workstation, server, and cloud. Three

Re: Using Fedup

On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 22:59 +0930, Tim wrote: > Mickey: > > > fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' > > > (choose > > > from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Seriously? > > Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually

Re: Using Fedup

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:59:30 +0930 Tim wrote: > Mickey: > > > fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' > > > (choose > > > from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Seriously? > > Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actual

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/2015 09:29 AM, Tim wrote: Mickey: fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' (choose from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') Patrick O'Callaghan: Seriously? Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually means? I've looked at

Re: Using Fedup

Mickey: > > fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' > > (choose > > from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') Patrick O'Callaghan: > Seriously? Can someone explain what product=nonproduct actually means? I've looked at ,

Re: Using Fedup

On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:20 -0400, Mickey wrote: > > On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: > > fedup --network21 --product non-product > > ERROR Message; > > # fedup --network21 --product non-product > usage: fedup [options] > fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product'

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/15 08:44, Mickey wrote: > > > On 06/18/2015 08:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> # fedup --network 21 --product nonproduct >>> setting up repos... >>> No upgrade available for the following repos: infinality infinality-noarch >>> getting boot images... >>> .treeinfo.signed | 2.2 kB

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 08:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/19/15 08:17, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:40 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --net

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/19/15 08:17, Mickey wrote: > > > On 06/18/2015 07:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 06/18/2015 04:40 PM, Mickey wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: > > > On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: >> fedup --network

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 07:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:40 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 04:40 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product non-product usage: fedup [options] fedup: err

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 04:09 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 06:08 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Should go fairly well if your F20 is up to date. You may have to wait for a full moon and shave a goat under it, but you shoul

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 06:40 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product non-product usage: fedup [options] fedup: err

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 07:24 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product non-product usage: fedup [options] fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice:

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 07:20 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product non-product usage: fedup [options] fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' (choose from 'server', 'clo

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: fedup --network21 --product non-product ERROR Message; # fedup --network21 --product non-product usage: fedup [options] fedup: error: argument --product: invalid choice: 'non-product' (choose from 'server', 'cloud', 'workstation', 'nonproduct') --

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 06:08 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Should go fairly well if your F20 is up to date. You may have to wait for a full moon and shave a goat under it, but you should be OK. :-) And, just as with gettin

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 03:08 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I was on the ANSI SCSI committee back in the day (like 30 years ago) so I had "special powers" and could get by with dark blue candles and only having to pluck a live chicken on alternate Tuesdays to get my drives to work. I still have a bunch of the ol

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 03:07 PM, Mickey wrote: You do have a point. Yes, I know I do. That's why I usually wear a hat so that nobody notices. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 02:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Should go fairly well if your F20 is up to date. You may have to wait for a full moon and shave a goat under it, but you should be OK. :-) And, just as with getting SCSI to work, always use black candles! I w

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 06:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: BACKUP!!! , I'm getting the feeling that Fedup isn't trustworthy. Backing up before doing a system upgrade is simply common sense. And, what you really need to back up is /home. Yes, having on a separate partiti

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: BACKUP!!! , I'm getting the feeling that Fedup isn't trustworthy. Backing up before doing a system upgrade is simply common sense. And, what you really need to back up is /home. Yes, having on a separate partition is a good idea, and you can reinstall i

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 05:35 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:15 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? Sure, it will. But: for the F20 -> F21 upgrade only, you must pass --produc

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 02:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Should go fairly well if your F20 is up to date. You may have to wait for a full moon and shave a goat under it, but you should be OK. :-) And, just as with getting SCSI to work, always use black candles! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 05:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:15 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? Sure, it will. But: for the F20 -> F21 upgrade only, you must pass --product = non-product. Thereafter (say, for F21->

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 02:22 PM, Mickey wrote: On 06/18/2015 05:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? It will upgrade everything you have installed, provided that it's from a properly-configured repository. (As examples,

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 05:15 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? Sure, it will. But: for the F20 -> F21 upgrade only, you must pass --product = non-product. Thereafter (say, for F21->F22), just "do it" without having to p

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 05:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? It will upgrade everything you have installed, provided that it's from a properly-configured repository. (As examples, there are special repos for Adobe an

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 04:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? Sure, it will. But: for the F20 -> F21 upgrade only, you must pass --product = non-product. Thereafter (say, for F21->F22), just "do it" without having to pass that flag. Temlakos -- users mailing

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 01:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? It will upgrade everything you have installed, provided that it's from a properly-configured repository. (As examples, there are special repos for Adobe and for Google Earth, and if you have them se

Re: Using Fedup

On 06/18/2015 03:52 PM, Mickey wrote: Fedora upgrade 20 - 21 Will Fedup do upgrade for KDE ? Yes. You will need to use the following command: # fedup --network 21 --product non-product Regards, Dan -- Dan Mossor, RHCSA Systems Engineer Fedora Server WG | Fedora KDE WG | Fedora QA Team Fedora