Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-08 Thread Linux Tyro
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: > >> Suspend does it to RAM. So your computer needs (minimal) power > >> continuously available to it, to keep what it's stuffed into memory. > >> If the memory is lost, then the next boot will be a cold boot. > > Linux Tyro: > > But without inten

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Suspend does it to RAM. So your computer needs (minimal) power >> continuously available to it, to keep what it's stuffed into memory. >> If the memory is lost, then the next boot will be a cold boot. Linux Tyro: > But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except >

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Linux Tyro
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except > for the case > > that power has gone and I am not using UPSCold boot simply means > that it doesn't > > need credentials to log-on? > > cold boot means a normal boot

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Linux Tyro
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Tim wrote: > With suspend and hibernate, the computer stores everything that it's > currently doing (documents your reading/editing, pages you're browsing, > etc), so that when you wake the computer up, you resume from where you > left off. > > Hibernate stores it

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 01:47 -0500, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hibernation and Suspension of distro -- these options are a little > typical for me at least, I just either logout or Shut down. > > Logout - The current user logs out of the session. > Restart - To restart the computer to get back the sessio

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Linux Tyro
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Greg Woods wrote: All this was just an answer to the question "why would anybody ever want > to boot from /home". I don't claim this is the optimal setup. > Yes, it was just a question for information point of view, and now cleared that /home is for the data stora

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 04:50 +1030, Tim wrote: > Then you have funny things, like: A laptop that will suspend and wake > up, but goes permanently into a coma if you try to hibernate then wake > up. Yes, unfortunately, whether Linux suspend and/or hibernate will work well is a function of exactl

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 04:51 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 07:43 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > > The /boot partition is where Fedora boots from. It contains a > > grub/grub.conf file for booting various Fedora kernels. I need some > > other partition to use for the main boot loader. > > Yo

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/06/2011 10:21 AM, Tim wrote: > You can have more than one boot partition, you can even give them all > the same name (which can be a nuisance to sort through), or different > names (a bit more logical). If that's what you want, you're probably best off giving them descriptive labels, such a

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 07:43 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > The /boot partition is where Fedora boots from. It contains a > grub/grub.conf file for booting various Fedora kernels. I need some > other partition to use for the main boot loader. You can have more than one boot partition, you can even give

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 07:59 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > Essentially, hibernation is a method of writing the contents of RAM > and the CPU registers to the swap space, then powering down the > computer. When the computer comes back on, it reloads the RAM and the > CPU registers from the hard drive, a

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 11:50 -0400, Linux Tyro wrote: > > I really don't know what is hibernation and all that. Can you step by > step let me know or point me to the link what is hibdernation for > beginners? Sorry, I just can't resist: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux%20hibernation Essentially, hibe

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 21:51 +1030, Tim wrote: > > As you say, you only need to chainload through an extra location to be > able to get around the "computer always resumes without giving me a > choice" problem. You could chainload to home, or to any other > partition. Using home would seem an od

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 08:55 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/05/2011 08:42 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > The master boot block contains pointers to the /home boot > > configuration that has nothing in it but chainloaders. Then grub inside > > Fedora is installed only on the Fedora root partition > > Woul

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-06 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 09:42 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > I have a system with Windows dual boot, and I want to be able to > hibernate Linux, boot into Windows, and then resume Linux from > hibernation. With recent versions of Fedora, this is not possible from > the standard grub configuration, becaus

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2011 08:42 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > Unfortunately, this safeguard does get in the way of my desire to > hibernate Linux and boot into Windows. So I get around this by booting > from /home. The master boot block contains pointers to the /home boot > configuration that has nothing in it but c

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-05 Thread Linux Tyro
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: For a partition to be bootable, it has to have the appropriate files on > it to boot your computer. Can you give me one reason why you'd want to > have those files in /home, even if it is on its own partition, as it is > on my computers? > Not ha

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-05 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 08:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > For a partition to be bootable, it has to have the appropriate files on > it to boot your computer. Can you give me one reason why you'd want to > have those files in /home, even if it is on its own partition, as it is > on my computers? Ye

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2011 07:01 AM, Linux Tyro wrote: > I was confused since I thought earlier that partitions are always > bootable, but we can have /home as partition which is still not booted > (for clarification). For a partition to be bootable, it has to have the appropriate files on it to boot your com

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-05 Thread Linux Tyro
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > In principle one probably could tweak a system into booting from the /home > partition, but I see no reason to ever want such a configuration. > You want to think of the /home partition as your working area --- it is > used > for storing

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Linux Tyro
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > In principle one probably could tweak a system into booting from the /home > partition, but I see no reason to ever want such a configuration. > You want to think of the /home partition as your working area --- it is > used > for storing

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 04 November 2011 11:11:56 Linux Tyro wrote: > Well, since (now) /home is a separate partition, but we cannot boot from > /home only because it is not containing the required file to get booted and > it is only for storing the data.? In principle one probably could tweak a system into

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Linux Tyro
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: This is how bootloading works... > Well, since (now) /home is a separate partition, but we cannot boot from /home only because it is not containing the required file to get booted and it is only for storing the data.? -- THX -- users

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Linux Tyro
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Nothing is permanent, of course, it would just be a hassle to fix. Neither > Windows nor Linux would boot, and you would need to boot from the > installation > DVD or something called the "Rescue CD", and use the rescue environment to > r

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-04 Thread Linux Tyro
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: This is how bootloading works... First, there is bios, which is programmed > to > look for and execute the boot code in the MBR, and it does so at some > point. > The "look for and execute" means that bios needs to access the MBR of the > di

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 03 November 2011 14:14:46 Linux Tyro wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > What earlier I used to think is that, "BIOS only send the instructions to > the boot-loader (probably or whatever it sends the signal to) to just boot, > BIOS has not such a bigger me

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-03 Thread Linux Tyro
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > "The boot loader is installed on a partition that doesn't lie entirely > > below 128 GB. The system might not boot is BIOS support only lba24 > (result > > is error 18 during install grub MBR)." > > __ > >

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 03 November 2011 07:33:33 Linux Tyro wrote: > Inserted the CD in the CD-ROM (yes it was the first boot option). > Everything was going on smooth but after some time I came to the windows > where I have to do something regarding 'partitioning'. The CD, by default > showed with the follow