On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:59:06PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> What gotchas, out of curiosity?
> I've always done this with `usermod -aG group user`. Would that also
> be affected?
That's fine too. -a didn't aways exist, which made it painful, because you
had to get the current list and re
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> system-config-users seems to be still available. It's moderately
> user-friendly. From the command line, I think 'gpasswd groupname -a
> username' is the easiest. (You can use groupmod, but it's got some gotchas
> with behavior where gpasswd
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:07:13AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 17 July 2013, Matthew Miller sent:
> > Type "groups" without your username to show your _current_ groups --
> > remember that adding yourself to a group doesn't take effect until you
> > start a new session. (E.g. by logg
Allegedly, on or about 17 July 2013, Matthew Miller sent:
> Type "groups" without your username to show your _current_ groups --
> remember that adding yourself to a group doesn't take effect until you
> start a new session. (E.g. by logging out and in again.)
Or opening a new terminal?
Darned i
Am 17.07.2013 21:15, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 07/17/2013 11:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> i did: "otherwise my /var/log/maillog on my workstation would not have 644"
>> this is "logrotaded" - logrotate keeps the permissions/owner/group if
>> not specified like below (which is my own config-piece)
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 23:04 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> PS: I guess I'm not thinking straight today. This thread has plenty
> of evidence to that. :-/
"Even Homer nods" (no, not *that* Homer :-)
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:59:00PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:18 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:59:35PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > > I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
> >
> > For /var/log/messages you co
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:18 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:59:35PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
>
> For /var/log/messages you could use `dmesg -T | less +G' instead.
>
> Hope this helps,
That's not quite t
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:57:02PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:02:47PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > > Note that if you're using the systemd journal (and you are, in recent
> > > Fedora, including persistent logging to disk with F19), adding yourself to
> > > the 'syste
On 07/17/2013 12:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.07.2013 21:15, schrieb Joe Zeff:
I'm the only person who ever uses my laptop. If I wanted, then, I could use
this to make /var/log/messages world
readable for convenience. No, I'm not going to do it because unless I do it to
all of my ma
On 07/17/2013 11:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
i did: "otherwise my /var/log/maillog on my workstation would not have 644"
this is "logrotaded" - logrotate keeps the permissions/owner/group if
not specified like below (which is my own config-piece)
/var/log/scriptlog {
missingok
notifemp
On 07/17/2013 10:29 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
Nope, been doing it for years.
so have I. Never been a surprise or problem
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Am 17.07.2013 20:08, schrieb Rick Stevens:
> On 07/17/2013 08:36 AM, Reindl Harald issued this missive:
>> *no they are not*
>> otherwise my /var/log/maillog on my workstation would not have 644
>
> The correct thing to say is "if syslog(whatever) has to CREATE the file,
> it will not have world
On 07/17/2013 08:36 AM, Reindl Harald issued this missive:
Am 17.07.2013 16:46, schrieb Suvayu Ali:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:35:46PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/17/13 22:27, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always
Am 17.07.2013 15:59, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
> I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
> Is there any non-paranoiac reason for not making /var/log/ files
> readable say by wheel?
chown/chgrp/chmod exists
[harry@rh:~]$ ls /var/log/maillog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7,1K 2013-
Am 17.07.2013 16:46, schrieb Suvayu Ali:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:35:46PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/17/13 22:27, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>> Ed Greshko wrote:
Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always
assign the frequently used commands aliases.
On 07/17/2013 09:57 AM, Matthew Miller issued this missive:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:44:41AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
The reason the files are, by default, NOT world-readable is simply one
of security. Many programs (if using verbose logging) may expose
security-related items in plaintext in
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:44:41AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> The reason the files are, by default, NOT world-readable is simply one
> of security. Many programs (if using verbose logging) may expose
> security-related items in plaintext in the log files (usernames,
> passwords, GPG keys, etc.).
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:02:47PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > Note that if you're using the systemd journal (and you are, in recent
> > Fedora, including persistent logging to disk with F19), adding yourself to
> > the 'systemd-journal' group will allow you to see system logs with
> > 'journalctl
On 07/17/2013 06:59 AM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
Is there any non-paranoiac reason for not making /var/log/ files
readable say by wheel?
The consensus seems to be that it's OK to change the permissions and I
agree. Makin
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:21:20AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> Note that if you're using the systemd journal (and you are, in recent
> Fedora, including persistent logging to disk with F19), adding yourself to
> the 'systemd-journal' group will allow you to see system logs with
> 'journalctl'
On 07/17/2013 09:47 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:29:04AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
>>> Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
>>
>> Nope, been doing it for years.
>
> I thought changing the permission
Once upon a time, Bryn M. Reeves said:
> I'm trying to help Suvayu understand what he's getting confused over.
> Conflicts between logrotate and manual changes are certainly more likely
> than "something bad happened to syslog".
There are only a few logrotate.d config files that set permissions a
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:59:35PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
> Is there any non-paranoiac reason for not making /var/log/ files
> readable say by wheel?
I think it's reasonable for /var/log/secure to require an extra level of
aut
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:01:59AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Bryn M. Reeves said:
> > On 07/17/2013 03:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > > I thought changing the permission on /var/log/messages will cause
> > > problems with syslog, no?
> >
> > Maybe you are thinking of logrotate?
On 07/17/2013 04:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Again, nope, at least for common log files. logrotate copies the
> current ownership/permissions to the new files, unless otherwise
> configured (and only a few files have that set in the default config;
> they probably shouldn't either).
*if the conf
Once upon a time, Bryn M. Reeves said:
> On 07/17/2013 03:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > I thought changing the permission on /var/log/messages will cause
> > problems with syslog, no?
>
> Maybe you are thinking of logrotate? If you make changes by hand these
> will be undone when the logs are rota
Once upon a time, Suvayu Ali said:
> Your permission changes will be overwritten the moment a daemon sends a
> message to syslog.
No, they won't. Where did you get that idea? The syslog/rsyslog daemon
runs as root and can write to the file, no matter the permissions. It
doesn't ever change per
On 07/17/2013 03:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:29:04AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
>>> Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
>>
>> Nope, been doing it for years.
>
> I thought changing the permission
Once upon a time, Suvayu Ali said:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:29:04AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
> > > Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
> >
> > Nope, been doing it for years.
>
> I thought changing the permission
Hi Timothy,
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:35:46PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/17/13 22:27, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >
> >> Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always
> >> assign the frequently used commands aliases.
> > I guess my question shoul
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:29:04AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
> > Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
>
> Nope, been doing it for years.
I thought changing the permission on /var/log/messages will cause
problems with sysl
On 07/17/13 22:27, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always
>> assign the frequently used commands aliases.
> I guess my question should have been:
> Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy said:
> Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
Nope, been doing it for years.
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Ed Greshko wrote:
> Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always
> assign the frequently used commands aliases.
I guess my question should have been:
Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files?
Is there any program that won't work if you do t
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:59:35PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
For /var/log/messages you could use `dmesg -T | less +G' instead.
Hope this helps,
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On 07/17/13 21:59, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I'm tired of saying "sudo less /var/log/maillog" or "messages".
> Is there any non-paranoiac reason for not making /var/log/ files
> readable say by wheel?
>
>
Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always assign
the frequently
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