Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-08 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 18:35 -0500, Bill Perkins wrote: > On 2013.03.07 18:21, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 15:17 -0500, Bill Perkins wrote: > > > The panic message displays on the console before the system freezes. > > > > > You need to boot your Fedora system without the "rh

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-07 Thread Bill Perkins
On 2013.03.07 18:21, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 15:17 -0500, Bill Perkins wrote: > > The panic message displays on the console before the system > freezes. > > > You need to boot your Fedora system without the "rhgb quiet" at the > end > > of the linux boot line in order to

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-07 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 15:17 -0500, Bill Perkins wrote: > The panic message displays on the console before the system freezes. > You need to boot your Fedora system without the "rhgb quiet" at the end > of the linux boot line in order to see all of the details, or hit the > ESC key at the right

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-07 Thread Bill Perkins
On 2013.03.06 16:02, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 15:42 -0500, William Perkins wrote: > > I have two systems with which I am having problems during a > shutdown > or > > reboot. Both are x86_64 systems running Fedora-18 (Spherical Cow). > In > > both cases the systems will p

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/06/2013 01:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: that is what the UPS software does, make the shutdown before the UPS is completly discharged, but if you look at the topic we have undefined behavior due the kernel panic prvent the last event: power off Thank you. It's always good to learn someth

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.03.2013 22:13, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/06/2013 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> short power drops are not the topic >> >> the problem is to runa UPS battery completly empty >> deep uncharge is very bad for most batteries > > As I said, I'm trying to learn. I gather, then, that there's

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.03.2013 22:21, schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: > > On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 22:06 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 06.03.2013 22:02, schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: >>> I have a similar problem (see the recent discussion on this list titled >>> "System doesn't shut down properly under Fedora-18". Th

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 22:06 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 06.03.2013 22:02, schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: > > I have a similar problem (see the recent discussion on this list titled > > "System doesn't shut down properly under Fedora-18". The disks aren't > > synced; > > i have seen this a fe

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/06/2013 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: short power drops are not the topic the problem is to runa UPS battery completly empty deep uncharge is very bad for most batteries As I said, I'm trying to learn. I gather, then, that there's a way for the computers to know when they're running o

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.03.2013 22:02, schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: > I have a similar problem (see the recent discussion on this list titled > "System doesn't shut down properly under Fedora-18". The disks aren't > synced; i have seen this a few times on virtual machines with F17 > but there is no panic message

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.03.2013 21:56, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/06/2013 12:42 PM, William Perkins wrote: >> This is a problem because the system that controls the UPS must poweroff >> to shutdown the UPS during a power failure. If it does not, the UPS >> powers off after the batteries run down. This is not good

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 15:42 -0500, William Perkins wrote: > I have two systems with which I am having problems during a shutdown or > reboot. Both are x86_64 systems running Fedora-18 (Spherical Cow). In > both cases the systems will panic before the shutdown or reboot process > is completed a

Re: Panic when doing shutdown or reboot

2013-03-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/06/2013 12:42 PM, William Perkins wrote: This is a problem because the system that controls the UPS must poweroff to shutdown the UPS during a power failure. If it does not, the UPS powers off after the batteries run down. This is not good for the UPS. I take it, then, that the UPS is o