>
> sounds good.
>
tho i would think SA-Fedora12 would be more appropriate.
>
do not forget that there is DSL, Damn Small Linux.
>
Thanks,
yeah, you are right. let me talk about this with my team-mate (SA-Fedora12).
Thanks for remind me about DSL, but we have two different point of view,
DSL=Min
siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> By now, system can come up with just 95 packages and it seems that
> to reduce "Basic FC12" to "Minimal FC12" which we named it "SA-Linux"
> ;)
sounds good.
tho i would think SA-Fedora12 would be more appropriate.
do not forget that there is DSL, Damn Small Linux.
> i elected to wait a little while so i could ask following questions. :)
>
> how many are you down to now?
>
> when are you going to post a link to a list?
Dear geleem,
By now, system can coming up with just 95 packages and it seems that
nothing can be reduced any more. but I must prove that (9
siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> Thank you very much for your help, I will read them ASAP.
welcome very much.
i elected to wait a little while so i could ask following questions. :)
> P.S: after removign many packages, now, my current "minimal fedora",
> has less than 100 packages! ;)
how many are
> Fedora is not a minimalist distro. Therefore, you are looking at the
> wrong things.
>
> If you examine embedded systems, you won't find very many Fedora based
> verses, say debian.
>
> Cisco makes home market routers that have 8MB ROM to store the OS. Try
> that with Fedora sometime. :)
>
> Mu
On 07/14/2010 03:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> For some reasons I want to know what are "Minimum Required RPM
> Packages" for installing fedora on a PC.
> At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after
> removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 packag
> i went back to google to do another search with new parameters;
>
> yum rpm fedora "minimal+system"
>
> which found some possibles;
>
> a list removables; [yes, it is fc5, but list might catch any you have missed]
> http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/Fedora5MinimalInstall071
>
>
> a kickstart file;
>
siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> For sure I've googled it carefully before sending this email.
ok. but still not a final intent for use. which makes your request more
intriguing.
after re-reading your post, being that you have eliminated obvious types of
server and still not mentioning final intent,
> rpmreaper is a nice little ripper & stripper I use for this
>
> ..dex
Thank you Dexter, I read the overview it would be nice.
Till now I used a lot of shell scripting to do some recursive
dependency removing. But it would be more easier now, with this little
app. Thanks ;)
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On 15 July 2010 10:08, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> As I said, to determine your own minimum, start with a base install and
>> work down from there. Look at requires/depends with rpm, and run "yum
>> remove foo" (and answer "n" if you don't like what is going to be
>> removed).
>
rpmreaper is a n
> I have a headless machine that serves as a router, a web and mail server,
> and a firewall. I stripped it down as much as possible, while still leaving
> a usable system that can be upgraded normally.
>
> Right now, there are 458 rpm packages on it.
>
> There are no development tools of any kind
> While I think I understand your criteria for a package being "essential" (in
> the sense that the system fails to boot if this package is not present), I am
> still confused. Booting the system is a process that takes several stages. At
> what point exactly do you consider that the system has fin
On 07/14/2010 07:02 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Thursday, July 15, 2010 00:03:28 siavash ghiasvand wrote:
I'm looking for a LIST of RPM packages which are sufficient to
bring up a simple kernel and nothing more.
I can erase files from an installed system and create a live disk from
them , ev
On Thursday, July 15, 2010 00:03:28 siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> I'm looking for a LIST of RPM packages which are sufficient to
> bring up a simple kernel and nothing more.
>
> I can erase files from an installed system and create a live disk from
> them , even I can use something like "BasicLinux"
Once upon a time, Sam Varshavchik said:
> I have a headless machine that serves as a router, a web and mail server,
> and a firewall. I stripped it down as much as possible, while still leaving
> a usable system that can be upgraded normally.
>
> Right now, there are 458 rpm packages on it.
I
siavash ghiasvand writes:
did you try google? i think not, else you 'would have'/'should have'
mentioned doing so.
so, as a guide to what you want to do, an 'google linux advanced' search of
"minimal+system", with quotes and '+' sign gives 4,470 hits;
g
Dear g,
For sure I've googled it carefu
> did you try google? i think not, else you 'would have'/'should have'
> mentioned doing so.
> so, as a guide to what you want to do, an 'google linux advanced' search of
> "minimal+system", with quotes and '+' sign gives 4,470 hits;
> g
Dear g,
For sure I've googled it carefully before sending t
siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> For some reasons I want to know what are "Minimum Required RPM
> Packages" for installing fedora on a PC.
'For some reasons' is very broad and allows for a maximum possible reasons.
and, almost as many replies as you have received.
as has been stated, you do not reall
> Okay, as I mentioned in my earlier post, for disk space requirements you
> can try febootstrap. it is available in the Fedora repositories.
> But this might not reduce your list of installed packages to something
> as small as you are looking for. Maybe you can try the method I outlined
> earlie
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:50 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> > tell us_why_ you want this "extreme minimal" install
> The first reason is: "Minimal disk drive" and the second reason is:
> "Prevent any future conflict" which means, on that "extreme minimal
> linux" all packages can be installed
> I use this in rhel 5 right before I list the extra packages I want
> such as tar/openssh etc...
Thanks Joseph. It would be helpfull.
> I would make a minimal LiveCD from a kickstart file. Then boot a virtual
> machine with the iso. I would then try to remove what I consider "not
> required" a
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:38 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> Everybody's list of "essential" packages is different. For example,
>> ...
>> remove and what is required by basic system packages).
>
>> There is no such description in all of fedora's documentation.
>> Also, your description of "unw
>Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after
>that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up
>them.
I use this in rhel 5 right before I list the extra packages I want
such as tar/openssh etc...
%pre
#!/bin/bash
yum groupinfo base | perl -we 'my $in_mand
> Everybody's list of "essential" packages is different. For example,
> ...
> remove and what is required by basic system packages).
> There is no such description in all of fedora's documentation.
> Also, your description of "unwanted" is too vague and may well
> be ill defined.
Thanks chris a
On 07/14/2010 02:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> For some reasons I want to know what are "Minimum Required RPM
> Packages" for installing fedora on a PC.
> At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after
> removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 pack
Once upon a time, siavash ghiasvand said:
> Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
> Some of those important but not essential packages are:
> - passwd
> - openssh
> - sudo
> - dirmngr
> - file
> and many more...
Everybody's list of "essential" packages is different. For exa
On 07/14/2010 08:30 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of
>> packages?
>>
>> Rahul
>>
> Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after
> that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up
> th
> Hi,
> I have found a project called JeOS = "Just enough Operating System"
> that deals with similar issues.
> http://orangejeos.sourceforge.net/
> JB
Thank you very much, I read that project description and it looks
similar to mine. but for further reply I must spend some time there.
Siavash
-
> You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of
> packages?
>
> Rahul
Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after
that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up
them.
BTW, thanks for your attention And if you have any idea about
On 07/14/2010 08:18 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> Be specific. Which packages? Why can't you use kickstart?
>>
>> Rahul
>>
> Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
> Some of those important but not essential packages are:
> - passwd
> - openssh
> - sudo
> - dirmngr
> -
> Be specific. Which packages? Why can't you use kickstart?
>
> Rahul
Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
Some of those important but not essential packages are:
- passwd
- openssh
- sudo
- dirmngr
- file
and many more...
These packages are very important but they are no
On 07/14/2010 05:32 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> Dear JB
>
>
>> have you looked into
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
>> Why not create that barebone live cd and see what good, bad, and ugly went
>> into
>> it ?
>>
> Thanks, I will take a look at it now, may be
Dear JB
> have you looked into
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
> Why not create that barebone live cd and see what good, bad, and ugly went
> into
> it ?
Thanks, I will take a look at it now, may be it could help me.
But you know, the problem is Official Fedora Release
Dear Chris
> Did you try a kickstart install with '%packages --nobase'? This gets you
> 189 packages (at least in rawhide).
Yes, I've tried it but unfortunately many unwanted packages like
"wireless" will be installed with this option.
Thanks for that link, I will check it out.
Dear JB
> S
I thought F13 has a new "minimal" install option that gives you ~120 or
so packages installed. That feature seems to have made it into the RHEL6
beta, too! (Very Cool, IMNSHO)
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On 07/14/2010 05:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
Dear All,
For some reasons I want to know what ar
Hi,
On 07/14/2010 11:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
> 2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
> dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
> installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
> before installation)
Did you try
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