Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:58 AM, JD wrote: > > > Yeah yeah yeah... > > Find yourself something better to do! > IMO, using this kind of tone repeatedly is not appropriate for this mailing list. We do recommend that users be consider towards each other even if they do have a difference of opin

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 07:24 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >On 10/15/10 3:48 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/15/2010 11:23 AM, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 10/15/10 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote:

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/15/10 3:48 PM, JD wrote: >On 10/15/2010 11:23 AM, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 10/15/10 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >>> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: > The list info on > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 06:42 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 11:37 +1030, Tim wrote: > >> Just about everyone who's been on this list for several years KNOWS that >> they post on this list about current releases, and the test list about >> the *next* releases being tested. >> >> The reaso

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 06:07 PM, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 15:42 -0700, JD wrote: >> I don't care! > That's quite clear. And while you continue to behave like an ass, you > should expect to get treated like one. > > Just about everyone who's been on this list for several years KNOWS that > they

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 11:37 +1030, Tim wrote: > Just about everyone who's been on this list for several years KNOWS that > they post on this list about current releases, and the test list about > the *next* releases being tested. > > The reasons for it are quite clear, and haven't changed. Those

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 15:42 -0700, JD wrote: > I don't care! That's quite clear. And while you continue to behave like an ass, you should expect to get treated like one. Just about everyone who's been on this list for several years KNOWS that they post on this list about current releases, and th

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 11:23 AM, James McKenzie wrote: >On 10/15/10 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: The list info on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that "

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 10:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: >> The list info on >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that >> "this list provides community assistance, encouragement, and advice >> for Fedora users" without specifying a rel

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> The list info on >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that >>> "this list provides community assistance, encouragement

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 10/15/10 1:53 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >On 10/15/10 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: The list info on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that "thi

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/15/10 10:52 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> The list info on >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that >>> "this list provides community assistance, encouragement,

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Terry Polzin
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: > > The list info on > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that > > "this list provides community assistance, encouragement, and advice > > for Fedora users" without specif

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 10/14/10 5:10 PM, Tom H wrote: > The list info on > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that > "this list provides community assistance, encouragement, and advice > for Fedora users" without specifying a release version, however the > developers would probably apprec

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread JD
On 10/15/2010 09:28 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > JD wrote: >> On 10/03/2010 04:46 AM, Craig White wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: That may be so! But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone if their post is out of place. Especially if the post IS about

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
JD wrote: >On 10/03/2010 04:46 AM, Craig White wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >>> That may be so! >>> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >>> if their post is out of place. >>> Especially if the post IS about Fedora! >> >> actually, it is my place to say to so

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:41 PM, JD wrote: >  On 10/14/2010 02:40 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> The list info on >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users states that >> "this list provides community assistance, encouragement, and advice >> for Fedora users" without specifying a release v

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-14 Thread JD
On 10/14/2010 02:40 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:27 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/03/2010 04:46 AM, Craig White wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: That may be so! But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone if their post is out of place. Especial

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:27 PM, JD wrote: >  On 10/03/2010 04:46 AM, Craig White wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >>> That may be so! >>> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >>> if their post is out of place. >>> Especially if the post IS about Fedora! >> >> actua

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-14 Thread JD
On 10/03/2010 04:46 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >> That may be so! >> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >> if their post is out of place. >> Especially if the post IS about Fedora! > > actually, it is my place to say to someone that their pos

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 3 October 2010 12:46, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >> That may be so! >> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >> if their post is out of place. >> Especially if the post IS about Fedora! > > actually, it is my place to say to someone that their pos

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:20 PM, JD wrote: >  The right place is the >> other list. >> >> Firstly, which list is for what has been defined by the list owners, and >> it *is* defined as he informed you (test release messages on the test >> list, m

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread stan
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:48:13 -0700 JD wrote: > No. I think this is an appropriate place for it simply because it is > for Fedora users. So JD, when you go into a library, do you expect to find all the books just stacked in heaps all over the place, with no rhyme or reason? Hey, this is a library

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread JD
On 10/03/2010 11:41 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 10/03/2010 02:20 PM, JD wrote: >> Then I strongly encourage you to unsubscribe because >> I will continue and persist in posting here on this list. >> So spare yourself the agony, and unsubscribe. >> >Discussions of test versions should be o

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/3/10 11:20 AM, JD wrote: > > On 10/03/2010 02:48 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >>> That may be so! >>> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >>> if their post is out of place. >> Actually, he's right to say so. Likewise for any other of us to say the >>

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/03/2010 02:20 PM, JD wrote: > > Then I strongly encourage you to unsubscribe because > I will continue and persist in posting here on this list. > So spare yourself the agony, and unsubscribe. > Discussions of test versions should be on the appropriate testing or development release. Th

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread JD
On 10/03/2010 02:48 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: >> That may be so! >> But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone >> if their post is out of place. > Actually, he's right to say so. Likewise for any other of us to say the > same thing: You're posting off topic, h

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: > That may be so! > But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone > if their post is out of place. > Especially if the post IS about Fedora! actually, it is my place to say to someone that their post is out off topic and I get extra points for providin

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-03 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:42 -0700, JD wrote: > That may be so! > But it is not YOUR place to say to anyone > if their post is out of place. Actually, he's right to say so. Likewise for any other of us to say the same thing: You're posting off topic, here. The right place is the other list. Fir

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread JD
On 10/02/2010 10:59 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:49 AM, JD > wrote: > > > ? > > http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/test/14-Beta/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-14-Beta-i386-DVD.iso > > > > hmm, should be up t

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodbury
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:49 AM, JD wrote: > > ? > > http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/test/14-Beta/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-14-Beta-i386-DVD.iso > > hmm, should be up to date, but it sure sound like anacond 14.2 instead of 14.4.17. Goto fedoraproject.org, select "

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread JD
On 10/02/2010 10:46 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 8:58 PM, JD > wrote: > > Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. > When I got to the stage where the user is presented > with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. > On the le

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodbury
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 8:58 PM, JD wrote: > Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. > When I got to the stage where the user is presented > with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. > On the left are storage partitions that will be mounted > and on the right (labeled for installation targets)

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread JD
On 10/02/2010 07:56 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 19:43 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 10/2/10 7:01 PM, Craig White wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. When I got to the stage where the user is presented with a

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread JD
On 10/02/2010 07:43 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >On 10/2/10 7:01 PM, Craig White wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: >>> Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. >>> When I got to the stage where the user is presented >>> with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. >>> On the

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 19:43 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > On 10/2/10 7:01 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: > >> Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. > >> When I got to the stage where the user is presented > >> with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle.

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 19:26 -0700, JD wrote: > >> Anaconda got stuck there for a long time. Even the disk activity LED > >> went quiescent. So I rebooted. > >> > >> Anyone experience this? > > > > upgrades take a long time > > > > there is a fedora-test list for questions about pre-release ve

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/2/10 7:01 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: >> Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. >> When I got to the stage where the user is presented >> with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. >> On the left are storage partitions that will be mounted >> and

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread JD
On 10/02/2010 07:01 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: >> Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. >> When I got to the stage where the user is presented >> with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. >> On the left are storage partitions that will be mounted >>

Re: Installing F14 Beta

2010-10-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 17:58 -0700, JD wrote: > Tried to upgrade to F14 Beta. > When I got to the stage where the user is presented > with a screen, that is vertically split in the middle. > On the left are storage partitions that will be mounted > and on the right (labeled for installation targets)