Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Scott Doty
On 03/25/2012 07:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/25/2012 11:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> How are you logging in? gdm? How are you starting X? > > Yes, I'm logging in on both computers via gdm and using XFCE. The > advice I got through fedorafourm.org simply stated that you had to be > in the audio

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 11:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: How are you logging in? gdm? How are you starting X? Yes, I'm logging in on both computers via gdm and using XFCE. The advice I got through fedorafourm.org simply stated that you had to be in the audio group to have access to the appropriate devices

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/26/2012 02:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > ConsoleKit should set filesystem acls on all devices needed for local > users. I thought that was udev's job. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:05:41 -0700 don fisher wrote: > Thanks. After a reboot, it started working for an as yet unknown > reason. Perversity! ;-) > With my home audio system, I can debug things with a signal generator > starting at the speaker and working back to the source until I find > wh

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:15:13 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/24/2012 01:52 PM, don fisher wrote: > > > > but no sound:-( > > Make sure you're in the audio group, because that's required as of F > 16. You may need to log out and back in to get it working. Yes, I > know that it's a stupid requireme

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/24/2012 07:41 PM, Craig White wrote: a victory for the intellectually incurious is a victory indeed. Fix the symptom, and let someone else fix the problem. Sarcasm and insults have their place. I didn't know that this list was it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 19:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/24/2012 07:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > In any case, it is*not* a "requirement" as you've stated. It is a > > "kludge" to get > > around another problem. > > *Shrug!* I'm only quoting what I was told and reporting that it worked > for

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/25/2012 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > *Shrug!* I'm only quoting what I was told and reporting that it worked for > me. > You can argue all you want about whether or not it's a "requirement," but the > fact > remains that it worked for me, 2 for 2. Yes, it worked for you. But, just like d

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/24/2012 07:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: In any case, it is*not* a "requirement" as you've stated. It is a "kludge" to get around another problem. *Shrug!* I'm only quoting what I was told and reporting that it worked for me. You can argue all you want about whether or not it's a "requi

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/25/2012 10:16 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > No. However, I tried to get sound just before adding myself to the group. It > failed on both boxes. On my desktop, it started working as soon as I made the > change. On the laptop, I had to log out and back in before I got sound. On > both > boxes, t

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/24/2012 07:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Have you since gone back and removed yourself from the "audio" group to check your work? No. However, I tried to get sound just before adding myself to the group. It failed on both boxes. On my desktop, it started working as soon as I made the cha

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/25/2012 09:57 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/24/2012 04:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Where did you get that nugget of information? > > I got it from fedoraforum.org. And, after "upgrading" both my desktop and > laptop > to F16, neither of them had sound until I did it. You said "requirement" a

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/24/2012 04:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Where did you get that nugget of information? I got it from fedoraforum.org. And, after "upgrading" both my desktop and laptop to F16, neither of them had sound until I did it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/25/2012 05:15 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/24/2012 01:52 PM, don fisher wrote: >> >> but no sound:-( > > Make sure you're in the audio group, because that's required as of F 16. You > may > need to log out and back in to get it working. Yes, I know that it's a stupid > requirement, but it w

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/24/2012 01:52 PM, don fisher wrote: but no sound:-( Make sure you're in the audio group, because that's required as of F 16. You may need to log out and back in to get it working. Yes, I know that it's a stupid requirement, but it wasn't *my* idea. -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread don fisher
On 03/23/12 18:38, stan wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:05:26 -0700 don fisher wrote: I am trying to find documentation on the alsa/pulse audio system. My goal is to set it up independent of gnome or KDE. This is the default configuration for Fedora out of the box. If I run KDE the sound wor

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-24 Thread David G . Miller
don fisher comcast.net> writes: > > I am trying to find documentation on the alsa/pulse audio system. My > goal is to set it up independent of gnome or KDE. > > Thanks, > don I ran into a similar problem with my FC16 installation of the Xfce re-spin. The solution I finally came up with was t

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-23 Thread stan
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:05:26 -0700 don fisher wrote: > I am trying to find documentation on the alsa/pulse audio system. My > goal is to set it up independent of gnome or KDE. This is the default configuration for Fedora out of the box. > If I run KDE the sound works. If I run twm or equivale