Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.02.2013 17:30, schrieb Tim: > On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 22:38 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's > > Yes, and no. Yes, you don't need it. But it can still be useful. > > Apart from the most obvious - static addresses being configured by your

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 22:38 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's Yes, and no. Yes, you don't need it. But it can still be useful. Apart from the most obvious - static addresses being configured by your central DHCP server, rather than each machine

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/20/2013 05:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, a superficial search only foundhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785618 reported by you where you mention the problem you are seeing with resolv.conf but indicate that it isn't part of the issue you are reporting. Thanx for finding t

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/20/2013 05:07 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: Don't touch resolv.conf. Set all the network configuration (including DNS) on you ifcfg-eth0 file. Actually, on my new mobo, it's eth1 for some reason, but as long as network handles it correctly (and it does) there's no need to mess with it. Tha

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/13 08:39, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/20/2013 04:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> If you filed a bugzilla, and it was closed as "WONTFIX" then it should still >> be broken. If you are talking about a problem with F14 and now we are on >> F18 then it would be a good idea if you bring this up as a

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Martín Marqués
2013/2/20 Joe Zeff : > On 02/20/2013 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> If you have "Manual" or "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" with DNS servers >> defined in the NM configuration and your resolv.conf file is getting written >> with 0.0.0.0 then you've hit a bug. One would hope you've filed a bug

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/20/2013 04:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you filed a bugzilla, and it was closed as "WONTFIX" then it should still be broken. If you are talking about a problem with F14 and now we are on F18 then it would be a good idea if you bring this up as a problem you could verify, or at least try t

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/13 08:20, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/20/2013 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> If you have "Manual" or "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" with DNS servers >> defined in the NM configuration and your resolv.conf file is getting written >> with 0.0.0.0 then you've hit a bug. One would hope you'v

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/13 08:11, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2013/2/20 Ed Greshko : >> On 02/21/13 05:50, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 02/20/2013 01:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's >>> Agreed. I had to turn it off on my desktop because it insisted on >>> overwriting

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/20/2013 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you have "Manual" or "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" with DNS servers defined in the NM configuration and your resolv.conf file is getting written with 0.0.0.0 then you've hit a bug. One would hope you've filed a bugzilla. I've got the interface

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Martín Marqués
2013/2/20 Ed Greshko : > On 02/21/13 05:50, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 02/20/2013 01:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's >> >> Agreed. I had to turn it off on my desktop because it insisted on >> overwriting my DNS numbers with 0.0.0.0 every time I boo

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/13 05:50, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/20/2013 01:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's > > Agreed. I had to turn it off on my desktop because it insisted on > overwriting my DNS numbers with 0.0.0.0 every time I booted. I still use it > on my

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/20/2013 01:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's Agreed. I had to turn it off on my desktop because it insisted on overwriting my DNS numbers with 0.0.0.0 every time I booted. I still use it on my laptop because the old network service doesn

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.02.2013 22:10, schrieb Juan Orti Alcaine: > network.service is the old SysV scripts, it is disabled by default. > NetworkManager.service is the default in Fedora and nobody needs NM for workstations with static IP's i maintain 20 production servers, a couple of test-setups and a ahndful o

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.02.2013 21:52, schrieb Martín Marqués: >> well it is a sysv-script, but chkconfig/systemctl are working in both >> directions as wrapper > > U there is only systemd in Fedora which SyV compatibility layer > # systemctl enable network.service > network.service is not a native serv

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
2013/2/20 Martín Marqués > 2013/2/20 Reindl Harald : > > > well it is a sysv-script, but chkconfig/systemctl are working in both > > directions as wrapper > > U > > # systemctl enable network.service > network.service is not a native service, redirecting to /sbin/chkconfig. > Executing /s

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Martín Marqués
2013/2/20 Reindl Harald : > >> >> # chkconfig --list >> >> ebtables0:desactivado 1:desactivado 2:desactivado >> 3:desactivado 4:desactivado 5:desactivado 6:desactivado >> netconsole 0:desactivado 1:desactivado 2:desactivado >> 3:desactivado 4:desactivado 5:desactivado

Re: Fedora 18 and network

2013-02-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.02.2013 21:06, schrieb Martín Marqués: > What system brings up networking on Fedora 18? SysV or Systemd? there is no SysV since Fedora 15 > I have a newly installed server and I haven't been able to make the > eth0 network card come up on boot (manually running systemctl restart > network