Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
Clemens Eisserer wrote: +1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another try and wait for F19,

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 12/02/13 12:27, Clemens Eisserer wrote: +1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another tr

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Clemens Eisserer
+1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another try and wait for F19, hoping it will be F18-don

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bill Davidsen wrote: >> 1. Sleep problem. >> When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started >> from the f-menu or by closing the lid, >> about 60% of the time the screen starts flashing on and off >> each couple of seconds, and the machine has to be stopped >> by pressing the power button, a

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, which I use for comparison. 1. Sleep problem. When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started from th

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.02.2013 17:54, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >>> 4. OpenVPN has ceased to work, although correct certs are in place. >>> I haven't examined the reason for this, as the other problems >>> are already fatal. >> >> Use OpenVPN to 4 destinations daily. No problems. > > As I said, this problem could

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> 3. NM >> This is behaving in an incomprehensible way, >> with WiFi getting slower and slower after re-starting NM. >> Here is an example pinging my home server on each laptop. > > My Desktop system has 2 WiFi cards. One USB Ralink RT3070, and one PCI > RT2790. They are work

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andras Simon wrote: >> 1. Sleep problem. >> When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started >> from the f-menu or by closing the lid, >> about 60% of the time the screen starts flashing on and off >> each couple of seconds, and the machine has to be stopped >> by pressing the power button, an

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Andras Simon
2013/2/8, Timothy Murphy : > I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, > and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. > > I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, > which I use for comparison. > > 1. Sleep problem. > When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that wa

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 10:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Just, FWIW. > I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, > and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. > > I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, > which I use for comparison. > > 1. Sleep problem. I don't use