Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-07 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 22:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > If you tell the installer to get the stage2 from an iso file, the > installer will remove the entire drive (not just the partition) > containing the file from the install options. What a major fuck-up in design. Nup, I'm not going to sugar-c

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/07/2016 07:01 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: Yes, that's the procedure I remember. The magic you put in grub is essential. This should be documented as a FAQ or actually in the official docs. It used to be, I don't know why it isn't anymore. It's a "green" method, it saves time and dvds. I expect

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-07 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 08:19:55 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 05/04/16 08:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 04/04/2016 02:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any reference on how to install dire

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-07 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 16:32:26 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/04/2016 02:34 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> I used to - mount the iso on some empty directory, >> - extract vmlinuz and the initramfs image for the new distribution and >> put them in /boot - modify grub.conf accordingly, write it to disk

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/06/2016 07:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, 2:07 AM Samuel Sieb mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote: On 04/06/2016 12:58 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 16:32 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> One important issue is that you can't install to the drive >> that

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, 2:07 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/06/2016 12:58 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 16:32 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> One important issue is that you can't install to the drive > >> that you read the iso from > > > > "Partition" not "drive". > > > No, I definitely me

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/06/2016 12:58 AM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 16:32 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: One important issue is that you can't install to the drive that you read the iso from "Partition" not "drive". No, I definitely mean drive. If you put the iso file in /home and try to use it as the stag

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 16:32 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > One important issue is that you can't install to the drive > that you read the iso from "Partition" not "drive". -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mail

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-05 Thread stan
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 00:55:45 + (UTC) "Amadeus W.M." wrote: > Oh, so I don't have to write the bfo file to any media? That's > excellent, that's what I'm looking for. Yes, I can install over the > network, as long as I can boot the installation from hard disk. In > fact I think once the instal

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-05 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 19:50:27 -0700, stan wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:33:26 -0700 stan > wrote: > >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:30:52 + (UTC) >> "Amadeus W.M." wrote: >> >> > I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any >> > reference on how to install directly from the h

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/04/2016 02:34 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I used to - mount the iso on some empty directory, - extract vmlinuz and the initramfs image for the new distribution and put them in /boot - modify grub.conf accordingly, write it to disk and boot the new kernel - during install, specify the partition

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/04/2016 06:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:04:55 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: On 04/04/2016 02:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any reference on how to install directly from t

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:04:55 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/04/2016 02:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > >> I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any > >> reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. > >>

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/04/2016 04:02 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:50:05 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: This will give you all the packages that were installed on the original system, but not on the current install. Of course, the more releases you are skipping over, the more rpms will have decided t

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/04/2016 03:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Yes, it will. If he has the time, he could upgrade one version at a time using fedup. But it would not be a good idea to jump the whole way even if it would let you (which I think it won't). He could, however, use it to go from F 20 to F 21, do some

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:50:05 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > This will give you all the packages that were installed on the original > system, but not on the current install. Of course, the more releases you are skipping over, the more rpms will have decided to change names, so this doesn't always wor

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/04/2016 03:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Isn't booting from the iso image, or mounting the image as a loopback device and running the installer from the mount point, going to install the new version from scratch rather than doing an upgrade, which would then mean that he would have to rememb

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 05/04/16 08:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 04/04/2016 02:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. Is this still possible? None of my

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/04/2016 02:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. Is this still possible? None of my pcs boot off of a usb stick and the cd

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 04/04/16 10:30, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. Is this still possible? None of my pcs boot off of a usb stick and the cdrom I think is failing on one of them, so I rea

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-04 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:10:16 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Amadeus W.M. > wrote: >> I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any >> reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. >> Is this still possible? None of my pcs

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-03 Thread stan
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:33:26 -0700 stan wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:30:52 + (UTC) > "Amadeus W.M." wrote: > > > I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any > > reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without > > media. Is this still possible? None o

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-03 Thread stan
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:30:52 + (UTC) "Amadeus W.M." wrote: > I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any > reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without > media. Is this still possible? None of my pcs boot off of a usb stick > and the cdrom I think is

Re: F23 install from hard disk

2016-04-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > I haven't upgraded my machines in a while and I couldn't find any > reference on how to install directly from the hard disk, without media. > Is this still possible? None of my pcs boot off of a usb stick and the > cdrom I think is failing on o