Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:22:34 -0700, JD wrote: > I am wondering whether or not to open the bug in > Fedora bugzilla or the more general Redhat Bugzilla? What do you mean? Both use http://bugzilla.redhat.com You could jump in at http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/system-config-services out of convenien

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-23 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 09:22 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/23/2010 08:15 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:53 -0700, JD wrote: > >> On 08/22/2010 09:16 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > There is a problem with system-c

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-23 Thread JD
On 08/23/2010 08:15 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:53 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 09:16 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: There is a problem with system-config-services. >>> JD, >>> >>> I would have to agree

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-23 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:53 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/22/2010 09:16 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > >> There is a problem with system-config-services. > > JD, > > > > I would have to agree. Time to BZ s-c-s. Fortunately chkconfig and ps > > give

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > > Why does it go without saying? Nothing in your previous report > indicates > > that you had checked the s-c-s version of reality using ps. Without > that > > information, how can anyone decide where the problem really is? > > > > poc > Please, stop t

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 09:16 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: >> There is a problem with system-config-services. > JD, > > I would have to agree. Time to BZ s-c-s. Fortunately chkconfig and ps > give you independent confirmations that the unwanted services a

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > Please, stop the noise! > I am sure there are people who will be tryinf this for themselves > and see that it is the case. There is a problem with system-config-services. > Enough from you. > If this is how you are going to treat people who try to h

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:52 -0700, JD wrote: > There is a problem with system-config-services. JD, I would have to agree. Time to BZ s-c-s. Fortunately chkconfig and ps give you independent confirmations that the unwanted services are not actually running, no matter what s-c-s may say. Good luc

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 08:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > JD, > > It's possible t

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: > >> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > >>> JD, > >>> > >>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >>> JD, >>> >>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As >>> an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the defaul

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > JD, > > > > It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As > > an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for > > each of those services: > > # c

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread JD
On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > JD, > > It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As > an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for > each of those services: > # chkconfig --list | grep akmods > akmods 0:off 1

Re: F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

2010-08-22 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 14:06 -0700, JD wrote: > After bootup, (Run Level 5), I ran > System->Administration->Services > > I checked each service that was marked red (disabled). > For a few of these disabled services, status was shown to be running. > These services were: > > > akmods > capi > h