Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
JD wrote: > Actually, it is impossible to secure wireless. That's because the > publicly available crypto systems being used were deliberately > designed to be broken in real time by parties with very keen > interest in such ability. The how of such methods of course remain > in the sole domain of

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread James McKenzie
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday, August 15, 2010 04:19:59 James McKenzie wrote: > >> JD wrote: >> >>> Actually, it is impossible to secure wireless. That's because the >>> publicly available crypto systems being used were deliberately >>> designed to be broken in real time by parties wit

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday, August 15, 2010 04:19:59 James McKenzie wrote: > JD wrote: > > Actually, it is impossible to secure wireless. That's because the > > publicly available crypto systems being used were deliberately > > designed to be broken in real time by parties with very keen > > interest in such abilit

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread JD
On 08/14/2010 08:19 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > JD wrote: >>On 08/14/2010 07:43 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> >>> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >>> Bill Davidsen writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > >> Bob Goodwin writes: >> >> >>> Yes

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread James McKenzie
JD wrote: > On 08/14/2010 07:43 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > >> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> >>> Bill Davidsen writes: >>> >>> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: > > >> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread JD
On 08/14/2010 07:43 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Bill Davidsen writes: >> >>> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >>> Bob Goodwin writes: > Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can > do no more than that, and I usuall

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread JD
On 08/14/2010 07:38 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> >>> Bob Goodwin writes: >>> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] M

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread James McKenzie
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bill Davidsen writes: > >> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> >>> Bob Goodwin writes: >>> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] MAC

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread James McKenzie
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > >> Bob Goodwin writes: >> >>> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can >>> do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] >>> MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fac

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread g
On 08/14/2010 01:58 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 11:38 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi. >> To be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and >> highly talented kid living next door. > > I don't

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-14 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 11:38 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Well, WEP will keep out the casual person looking for an open wifi. > To be honest, I think that is good enough unless you have a bored and > highly talented kid living next door. I don't think it really takes a talented person, the

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Bill Davidsen writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Bob Goodwin writes: >>> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can >>> do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] >>> MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I a

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Mikkel
On 08/13/2010 05:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Bob Goodwin writes: >>> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can >>> do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] >>> MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to t

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: >> Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can >> do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] >> MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in >> a rural area surro

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-10 Thread Phil Meyer
On 08/10/2010 10:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >On 09/08/10 16:43, Phil Meyer wrote: >> I am now convinced that ethernet over power has reached an adequate >> cost/service ratio, and are the best way to go. >> >> Powerline networks are up to 200Mb commonly, and you can get a starter >> kit with t

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-10 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 09/08/10 16:43, Phil Meyer wrote: > > I am now convinced that ethernet over power has reached an adequate > cost/service ratio, and are the best way to go. > > Powerline networks are up to 200Mb commonly, and you can get a starter > kit with two or three, depending on brand and model, for abou

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-09 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Bob Goodwin writes: > Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device that can > do no more than that, and I usually admit only certain [18 or 19] > MAC addresses that I have listed. Add to that the fact that I am in > a rural area surrounded by cotton and soy beans, the

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 08/08/10 22:37, James McKenzie wrote: > > Just make sure that you apply all of the known good practices for using > Wireless to these routers since they have much greater transmission > distances. > > James McKenzie > SSCP 367830 Yes I have been running WEP 'cause I have one old device t

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread James McKenzie
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: > >> Darn, I was hoping you had some experience upon which to recommend >> them! Yes, I googled and tried some of the places Ed suggested. It >> looks like there's a whole different WIFI industry out there apart >> from the prod

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Bob Goodwin writes: > Darn, I was hoping you had some experience upon which to recommend > them! Yes, I googled and tried some of the places Ed suggested. It > looks like there's a whole different WIFI industry out there apart > from the product names we usually see in the compute

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread JD
On 08/08/2010 12:26 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > So now I'm looking for another router and maybe I don't need 5 gHz despite > what the ad people would have me believe. In the mean time I will put the old > Netgear WGR614v9 back in operation. I have several Netgear devices and have > been satisfi

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 08/08/10 14:18, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: >>> department store router prices. see http://www.ubnt.com/ I have one of >>> their 300mw PCI cards and a now discontinued 300mW AP card. >>> >> Where do you buy this "Ubiquiti" stuff? >> >> Their site shows some i

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Bob Goodwin writes: >> department store router prices. see http://www.ubnt.com/ I have one of >> their 300mw PCI cards and a now discontinued 300mW AP card. >> > Where do you buy this "Ubiquiti" stuff? > > Their site shows some interesting equipment but after wading around > a bit I

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2010 08:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Newegg search "Ubiquiti" turns up nothing? FWIW, Amazon carries some of their products. -- Fast ship? You mean you've never heard of the Millennium Falcon? -- Han Solo 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- user

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2010 08:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > Where do you buy this "Ubiquiti" stuff? > > Their site shows some interesting equipment but after wading around > a bit I find nothing about price or ordering. Perhaps I missed > "clicking" somewhere? Newegg search "Ubiquiti" turns up

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-08 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 08/08/10 06:10, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Bob Goodwin writes: >> This is a current updated f-13 computer connected to our home LAN. I >> have been using a Buffalo Airstation WLI-TX4-AG300N, essentially an >> Ethernet wireless adapter to access the system. I recently bought

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-07 Thread JD
On 08/07/2010 12:32 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > And the newer devices have "internal" antennas, no connector to even > try a gain antenna of any kind. Just try different orientations for > best signal strength. I do have a camera feeding another Buffalo > ethernet adapter, 2.4 gH

Re: F-13 new wireless routers -

2010-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 07/08/10 14:50, JD wrote: >On 08/07/2010 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> This is a current updated f-13 computer connected to our home LAN. I >> have been using a Buffalo Airstation WLI-TX4-AG300N, essentially an >> Ethernet wireless adapter to access the system. I recent