Re: EFI and fedora

2023-09-26 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 9/25/23 20:44, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: On 9/25/2023 4:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: ... There's no magic reserved space outside partitions that is used for booting anymore. The firmware finds the device, reads the par

Re: EFI and fedora

2023-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: > On 9/25/2023 4:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > >Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: > >... > >There's no magic reserved space outside partitions that is used for > >booting anymore. The firmware finds the device, reads the partition > >table to find the

Re: EFI and fedora

2023-09-25 Thread Bill Cunningham
On 9/25/2023 4:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: ... There's no magic reserved space outside partitions that is used for booting anymore. The firmware finds the device, reads the partition table to find the correct partition, mounts that partition and reads the

Re: EFI and fedora

2023-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bill Cunningham said: >     In the days of mbr bios we could save the 512 of the HDD sector. > Now is all this gone with UEFI? Is the bootsector of the partition, > 512 to 1024 or so bytes no longer valid? IS there specific locations > that uefi files are stored in binary of the

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > OK, > This is correct, but is is absolutely confusing !!! > Same name 2 different files ! > > Are there both generated by grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? > I do not think so, if I check the date of creation. > How is generated /bo

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, This is correct, but is is absolutely confusing !!! Same name 2 different files ! Are there both generated by grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? I do not think so, if I check the date of creation. How is generated /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:22 AM, Patrick D

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:22 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > In addition to my previous question. > Should I have a grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora ? There should be two: /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg /boot/grub2/grub.cfg The first one has a few lines to find and load the 2nd one. grubx$arch.efi

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
In addition to my previous question. Should I have a grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora ? > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > > When /boot/efi is ot mounted: > ls /boot/efi/ > EFI > > > while in the fstab > UUID=A686-D625 /boot/efi vfat > umask=00

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 19:02, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > > When /boot/efi is ot mounted: > ls /boot/efi/ > EFI That is normal - at least for my systems. $ mount | grep efi efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,

Re: EFI

2022-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > df /boot/efi > > And see if it is really mounted. Sorry, it is really mounted at boot. I can umount and remount even with a file in /boot/efi/EFI is here I am going to guess it is not. And > it has nofail so will cleanly fail and not block the os. > > After the df then try a > mount /boo

Re: EFI

2022-07-26 Thread Roger Heflin
df /boot/efi And see if it is really mounted. I am going to guess it is not. And it has nofail so will cleanly fail and not block the os. After the df then try a mount /boot/efi On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 1:02 PM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > > When

Re: EFI shell?

2021-12-25 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 at 19:00, Tom Horsley wrote: > I recently got a new mini PC that is UEFI only. Out of curiosity > I started reading about the EFI shell. I now have only one > question: Would any "ordinary" user ever have any reason to > use the EFI shell? (Secondary question: Would he be able

Re: EFI shell?

2021-12-24 Thread Roger Heflin
Well, when EFI started it was so screwed up that pretty much everything had to be done in that EFI shell (the classic bios screen did very little in the early systems). That was 2002-2003 (or before), and it has taken so long for EFI to take over is because of how badly the first implementations

Re: EFI shell?

2021-12-24 Thread old sixpack13
> I recently got a new mini PC that is UEFI only. Out of curiosity > I started reading about the EFI shell. I now have only one > question: Would any "ordinary" user ever have any reason to > use the EFI shell? (Secondary question: Would he be able to > anyway?) > > Trying to decrypt the things I

Re: EFI partition

2019-06-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/21/19 1:35 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: What is the advantage in having the /boot/efi on a single partition, and not /boot for example (which was the case before EFI)? UEFI doesn't boot from code stuffed into a tiny section of the MBR.  Under UEFI, the non-volatile RAM holds a description of

Re: EFI partition

2019-06-21 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 10:35:10 +0200 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > What is the advantage in having the /boot/efi on a single partition, > and not /boot for example (which was the case before EFI)? > In addition, the /boot/efi is a fat32. > > Thank to clarify this point. It's not really an advantage,

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 03:15 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/19/2018 10:38 AM, Greg Woods wrote: It is possible to get yourself in trouble if you have more than one EFI partition. My two were on the same drive; I don't know if that makes a difference. But what happened to me was, after the first time I b

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 1:16 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/19/2018 10:38 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > what happened to me was, after the first time I booted > > Windows 10 after installing Fedora, I could no longer boot Linux > > I expect that was Microsoft forcing the EFI "BootOrder' to give them >

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/19/2018 10:38 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > It is possible to get yourself in trouble if you have more than one EFI > partition. My two were on the same drive; I don't know if that makes a > difference. But what happened to me was, after the first time I booted > Windows 10 after installing Fedora,

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Greg Woods
It is possible to get yourself in trouble if you have more than one EFI partition. My two were on the same drive; I don't know if that makes a difference. But what happened to me was, after the first time I booted Windows 10 after installing Fedora, I could no longer boot Linux, it just went straig

Re: EFI

2018-07-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/18/2018 05:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/18/2018 02:53 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> I have a disk where I wish to have 2 OS on 2 different partitions >> Do I need 2 EFI System Partition (Boot). I guess that one is enough. >> I just want to be sure. > > You only need one.  That's one of th

Re: EFI

2018-07-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/18/2018 02:53 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I have a disk where I wish to have 2 OS on 2 different partitions Do I need 2 EFI System Partition (Boot). I guess that one is enough. I just want to be sure. You only need one. That's one of the big benefits of EFI.

Re: EFI F25 LVM install does not need separate /boot partition

2016-12-30 Thread Mayavimmer
On 30/12/2016 19:46, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/30/2016 02:19 AM, Mayavimmer wrote: >> Is it safe? > > If your system boots, then probably, yes. > Actually, I just found out that might not be the case. Out of five F25 installs I tried on one machine today, the ones without separate /boot destr

Re: EFI F25 LVM install does not need separate /boot partition

2016-12-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/30/2016 02:19 AM, Mayavimmer wrote: Is it safe? If your system boots, then probably, yes. If so, why does the Fedora installer propose a separate /boot in this EFI hardware case with GPT partitioning? The kernel and initrd need to be in a place that GRUB2 can read them. Anaconda can

Re: EFI F25 LVM install does not need separate /boot partition

2016-12-30 Thread Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco
On Dec 30, 2016 4:20 AM, "Mayavimmer" wrote: > > It seems that on EFI hardware Fedora 25 can be installed without the > suggested separate /boot partition. I just selected auto partitioning on > a LVM device, then deleted the given new /boot partition. It seems to > work ok. > The simple answer is

Re: EFI: how to dual boot without esc, F9 ?

2014-07-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:31 PM, sean darcy wrote: > On 07/14/2014 01:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:45 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> >>> New HP laptop, W 8.1, EFI boot. I've installed F20. The laptop boots to >>> Windows. If I hit ESC and f9, I get: >>> >>> - OS Boot Manager

Re: EFI: how to dual boot without esc, F9 ?

2014-07-14 Thread sean darcy
On 07/14/2014 01:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:45 AM, sean darcy wrote: New HP laptop, W 8.1, EFI boot. I've installed F20. The laptop boots to Windows. If I hit ESC and f9, I get: - OS Boot Manager - Fedora 20 [HDD SERIAL NUMBER] - Boot from EFI file When I choose Fedor

Re: EFI: how to dual boot without esc, F9 ?

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:45 AM, sean darcy wrote: > New HP laptop, W 8.1, EFI boot. I've installed F20. The laptop boots to > Windows. If I hit ESC and f9, I get: > > - OS Boot Manager > - Fedora 20 [HDD SERIAL NUMBER] > - Boot from EFI file > > When I choose Fedora, I get the grub2 manager, whi

Re: EFI: how to dual boot without esc, F9 ?

2014-07-14 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 14/07/14 15:45, sean darcy wrote: New HP laptop, W 8.1, EFI boot. I've installed F20. The laptop boots to Windows. If I hit ESC and f9, I get: - OS Boot Manager - Fedora 20 [HDD SERIAL NUMBER] - Boot from EFI file When I choose Fedora, I get the grub2 manager, which includes a choice for