Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/21/13 22:30, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Thanks, for all suggestions. I'll choose subjects and terms more > precisely next time. Sorry for all your inconvenience and I hope you're > not going to blacklist my next messages. No But I may decide to blacklist others for being overly pedan

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-21 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 21.04.2013 02:16, Bill Davidsen wrote: > The fact that you continue to deny a poor choice of subject rather > than just make a note to be very clear in future subjects makes me > sorry I spent time composing two answers, one to your subject and one > to your real problem. > > Reindl tends to be

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.04.2013 03:23, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/20/2013 05:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular system update (or at last, I'm trying)

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.04.2013 01:46, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), >> below is error reported by yum: >> > You have gained wisdom, the fc17->fc18 upgrade path(s) are not robust. > Sometime f'ed-up will work, and if

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/20/2013 05:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular system update (or at last, I'm trying) * so please do NOT use the term "upgrade" Update would be

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 19.04.2013 10:15, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 19.04.2013 08:24, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: On 18.04.2013 23:18, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular sy

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular system update (or at last, I'm trying) * so please do NOT use the term "upgrade" Update would be easier to understand here * do not use "--s

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), below is error reported by yum: You have gained wisdom, the fc17->fc18 upgrade path(s) are not robust. Sometime f'ed-up will work, sometimes yum will work, always fresh install will work. NOTE: b

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-19 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
2013-04-19 10:15 keltezéssel, Reindl Harald írta: Am 19.04.2013 08:24, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: On 18.04.2013 23:18, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular system update (or at la

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2013 10:50, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > I don't like arguments about terms. and i don't like discussions about clear subjects like "yum does not solve dependencies" instead "can't upgrade" while it is pretty clear that such dep-problems in case of a normal update are going away as t

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.04.2013 10:15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 19.04.2013 08:24, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: >> On 18.04.2013 23:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing regular system update (o

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2013 08:24, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > On 18.04.2013 23:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: >>> No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing >>> regular system update (or at last, I'm trying) >> * so please do NOT

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 18.04.2013 23:22, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:41:06 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > >> I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), >> below is error reported by yum: >> >> Resolving Dependencies >> --> Running transaction check >> ---> Package

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 18.04.2013 23:18, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: >> No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing >> regular system update (or at last, I'm trying) > * so please do NOT use the term "upgrade" Why? Yum uses this term. > * do not

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:41:06 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), > below is error reported by yum: > > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package febootstrap-supermin-helper.x86_64 0:3.20-1.fc17 will

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.04.2013 23:08, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > No, because I don't want to upgrade from f17 to f18. I'm just doing > regular system update (or at last, I'm trying) * so please do NOT use the term "upgrade" * do not use "--skip-broken" * analyze what deps are failing * consider to wait a fe

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 18.04.2013 23:02, Steven Stern wrote: > On 04/18/2013 03:41 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), >> below is error reported by yum: >> >> Resolving Dependencies >> --> Running transaction check >> ---> Package febootstrap-superm

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/18/2013 03:41 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), > below is error reported by yum: > > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package febootstrap-supermin-helper.x86_64 0:3.20-1.fc17 will be > obsolet

Re: Can't upgrade Fedora 17

2013-04-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.04.2013 22:41, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > I can't cleanly upgrade my Fedora installation (I use --skip-broken), > below is error reported by yum: > > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package febootstrap-supermin-helper.x86_64 0:3.20-1.fc17 will be > obsole