Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/01/2025 03:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm using the upstream firefox nightly and when I issue the command "ps -ef | grep firefox" I get 14 lines displayed after I have shut firefox down, and as far as I am aware I still have it configured to not to continue running background tasks afte

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2025-10-02 at 07:49 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > *From:* Patrick O'Callaghan > > *Sent:* Saturday, 27 September 2025 at 22:10 UTC+10 > > *To:* users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > *Subject:* RE: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
O Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 01:37:32AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/1/25 12:29 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 12:08:37AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 9/30/25 11:55 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:51:34PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > What is

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Oct 1, 2025, at 1:59 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > The NVidia firmware will skew the percentage of savings to be much less. > The rescue image isn't going to change much because it's already > including everything anyway. I'm beginning to think the rescue initramfs is becoming of very questi

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-10-01 Thread Tim via users
Are they including firmware updates inside driver packages? And is that re-flashing the firmware in cards (I couldn't see that necessitating an increased initramfs, that could just be something that ran when the package installed), or are they simply loading new code as the OS boots, each

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2025-10-01 at 13:11 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Tim, I think the header is "In-Reply-To: ". Delete that, new Subject > and body and it appears as new thread (as intended), not a sub-thread. The "In-reply-to" header indicates that a message is a reply to another, and which specific message

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Roger Heflin
Does "a disk drive from a defunct CentOS-7 system was mounted. " include physically cabling the drive in and/or connecting the given drive or just mounting a disk device that has been there the entire time? If you physically added a another disk it may be booting from the wrong disk and/or the add

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Oct 1, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025, at 9:07 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: >> >> Did see a slightly smaller kernel size on machine if nvidia card after 107 >> dracut. dropped from 180 to 156? >> >> 180180424 Sep 20 07:48 /boot/initramfs-6.16.5-2

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 02:20:51PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2025-10-01 at 21:58 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > Jon LaBadie: > > > > I normally remove the reference line but I'm not working in my > > > > normal environment and overlooked it. > > > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > > I

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2025-10-01 at 02:55 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:51:34PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > This should have been a new thread instead of continuing from the other huge > > one. > > I normally remove the reference line but I'm not working in my > normal environment and

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-10-01 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 30 Sep 2025 at 22:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:59:09 -0700 Subject:Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot. To: Community support for Fedora users From

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/1/25 12:29 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 12:08:37AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/30/25 11:55 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:51:34PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: What is the kernel command line in the grub config file? linux ($root)/vmlinuz-6.16.8-200.

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-10-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 12:08:37AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 9/30/25 11:55 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:51:34PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > What is the kernel command line in the grub config file? > > > > linux ($root)/vmlinuz-6.16.8-200.fc42.x86_64 root=/dev/mapp

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-09-30 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:51:34PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > This should have been a new thread instead of continuing from the other huge > one. I normally remove the reference line but I'm not working in my normal environment and overlooked it. > > On 9/30/25 10:45 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > >

Re: Recently I killed my system

2025-09-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
This should have been a new thread instead of continuing from the other huge one. On 9/30/25 10:45 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: Since a large recent update I'm unable to reboot. Selecting any of the rescue or 5 retained kernels fails. After making the choice the screen clears to black with a single u

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-09-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/30/25 6:07 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: On 30 Sep 2025 at 20:34, Chris Murphy wrote: Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 20:34:58 -0400 From: "Chris Murphy" To: mi...@guam.net, "fedora users" Subject: Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because

Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not install because not enough space in /boot.

2025-09-30 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 30 Sep 2025 at 20:34, Chris Murphy wrote: Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 20:34:58 -0400 From: "Chris Murphy" To: mi...@guam.net, "fedora users" Subject:Re: Recently found that new Kernel would not

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > > It is an USB wireless connection regarding USB is the Oracle_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-7.2.2.vbox-extpack installed ??? currently don't know if needed when the rpmfusion VB is

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 7:47 AM Joe Average sixpac...@online.de wrote: > > What VM software are you using? > I seem to recall Virtual Box had some sharp edges when using a > wireless adapter. Something along the lines of the internet did not > work for NAT'd guests when

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> Subject: Re: Issue with Virtual machine > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 7:47 AM Joe Average wrote: > > > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > > > It is an USB wireless connection > &g

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > It is an USB wireless connection > With the VM, the interface offers me > NAT > Bridged Adapter > the other options are not relevant I guess > With NAT there are no additional option > The connection seems work

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-28 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: ... > Do I need to remove > kmod-VirtualBox-6.16.7-200.fc42.x86_64-7.2.2-1.fc42 (none) > kmod-VirtualBox-6.16.8-200.fc42.x86_64-7.2.2-1.fc42 (none) depends on what kernels are installed. AFAIK kmod's gets de-installed when the the related kernel gets de-Installed --

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-28 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
he case for all the *VirtualBox* RPMs, for example with: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{vendor}\n' \*VirtualBox\* Ignore the kmod-VirtualBox that are build by akmods. Re-install from rpmfusion if needed (disable the oracle repo for that). I have that on my machine:

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-09-27 at 15:54 -0600, home user via users wrote: > I found an old stick with a back-up of the old desktop's > motherboard's BIOS. The file explorer's properties thing shows it's > FAT32, exactly what I wanted. It also has more than enough free > space. NB: Some manufacturers insist

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 12:48 PM Barry wrote: > > > On 27 Sep 2025, at 06:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > That is terrible and breaks all security. You can't trust any sites if you > > do that. > > It’s a fact of life that it is one of the few reliable ways to detect malware > and prevent data

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-27 Thread home user via users
On 9/26/2025 4:30 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 3:21 PM, home user via users wrote: On 9/26/2025 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 10:35 AM, home user via users wrote: On 9/25/2025 10:59 PM, Tim wrote: [snip] Not for planning the install, but for my education and understanding:

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-27 Thread home user via users
On 9/27/2025 11:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2025-09-27 at 10:17 -0600, home user via users wrote: I have the compressed BIOS update file on the windows-10 desktop. Instructions say to uncompress and copy to a USB stick that "must use the FAT32/16/12 file system". Question: On that windows-10 (ho

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 27 Sep 2025, at 20:04, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> If you trust the security company then you can trust the CA. >> > > Until it does not. Take Blue Coat, for example. As with so many things in life this is not a black vs white issue. Many technologies intended to do good can and do get

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Barry
> On 27 Sep 2025, at 06:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > That is terrible and breaks all security. You can't trust any sites if you > do that. It’s a fact of life that it is one of the few reliable ways to detect malware and prevent data leaks is to intercept the TLS data. To do that you need a m

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-09-27 at 10:17 -0600, home user via users wrote: > I have the compressed BIOS update file on the windows-10 desktop. > Instructions say to uncompress and copy to a USB stick that "must use > the FAT32/16/12 file system". Question: On that windows-10 (home) > desktop, how do I forma

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2025-09-26 at 20:51 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/26/2025 08:06 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > > Wondering if others are noticing this? Also seems to be processing > > slower? > > Same here. Personally, I use a little one liner I call grepit: > > ps aux | grep $1 | grep

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-27 Thread home user via users
(responding to both Samuel and Tim) On 9/26/2025 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 10:39 AM, home user via users wrote: What is the best time to check and (if appropriate) update BIOS: * before doing the bare-metal installation; or * after doing the bare-metal installation? It depends on

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 5:30 AM Barry Scott wrote: > > On 27 Sep 2025, at 02:10, olivares33561 via users > wrote: > > I work in a school and now the network will not connect anywhere anymore. > The certificate install is needed. Don't know some say it is a firewall type > of deal. > > If you

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Tim via users
Marco Moock: >> There are firewalls that do TLS interception. >> That is a man in the middle attack by your site to your connection, >> they can read and manipulate all your traffic. Samuel Sieb: > That is terrible and breaks all security. You can't trust any sites if > you do that. It's a poin

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 6:07 AM Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > [...] > > > On 27 Sep 2025, at 03:06, Michael D. Setzer II via users > > > wrote: > > > > > > Wondering if others are noticing this? Also seems to be processing > > > slower? > > > > Do you have lots of tabs open? > > > > Wh

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Frank Bures
On 2025-09-27 06:07, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: $ pgrep -f firefox 4489 4509 4582 4585 4641 4650 4701 4744 4751 4759 4816 I see the same issue with google-chrome-stable: root@ryzen:~# pgrep -il chrome 136781 chrome 136788 chrome_crashpad 136790 chrome_crashpad 136796 chrome 1367

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/26/25 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 2:13 AM Marco Moock wrote: Am 27.09.2025 um 01:50:08 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: A corollary to "interception is a valid use case" is, webapps can never be sure they have a secure channel. Therefore, webapps can only handle l

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Joe Average
Michael D. Setzer II wrote: ... > > Open firefor with no tabs open, but a blank display screen > pgrep -f firefox | wc -l > 11 same finding here with firefox-143.0.1-3.fc43.x86_64 and the previous firefox version open one new tab: counter goes up closing one tab: couner goes down no slowness not

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Will McDonald
On Sat, 27 Sept 2025 at 10:30, Barry Scott wrote: > On 27 Sep 2025, at 02:10, olivares33561 via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > I work in a school and now the network will not connect anywhere anymore. > The certificate install is needed. Don't know some say it is a firewall

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 27 Sep 2025 at 10:28, Barry Scott wrote: From: Barry Scott Subject:Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox?? Date sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2025 10:28:02 +0100 To: mi

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-27 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:16:29 +0200 > Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > > What do you think of > > It seems that there are some issues ! > > Yes. See below (and also: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message: > > Trim irrelevant mater

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 27 Sep 2025, at 03:06, Michael D. Setzer II via users > wrote: > > Wondering if others are noticing this? Also seems to be processing > slower? Do you have lots of tabs open? When I start up and have looked a small number of tabs I see: $ pgrep -f firefox | wc -l 14 As I click on tab

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 27 Sep 2025, at 02:10, olivares33561 via users > wrote: > > I work in a school and now the network will not connect anywhere anymore. > The certificate install is needed. Don't know some say it is a firewall type > of deal. If you have a man-in-the-middle proxy protecting you then yo

Re: Test i n g

2025-09-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 26 Sep 2025, at 22:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > lease do not send test messages to the list. See That was not intentional, apologies. The test was supposed to go elsewhere. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 2:13 AM Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 27.09.2025 um 01:50:08 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > > > A corollary to "interception is a valid use case" is, webapps can > > never be sure they have a secure channel. Therefore, webapps can only > > handle low value data. Higher value dat

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 27.09.2025 um 01:10:23 Uhr schrieb olivares33561 via users: > I work in a school and now the network will not connect anywhere > anymore. The certificate install is needed. Don't know some say it > is a firewall type of deal. There are firewalls that do TLS interception. That is a man in the

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2025-09-26 at 11:39 -0600, home user via users wrote: > What is the best time to check and (if appropriate) update BIOS: > * before doing the bare-metal installation; or > * after doing the bare-metal installation? Better to have the motherboard doing what it does before an install. If a

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 1:35 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 9/26/25 9:54 PM, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 27.09.2025 um 01:10:23 Uhr schrieb olivares33561 via users: > > > >> I work in a school and now the network will not connect anywhere > >> anymore. The certificate install is needed. Don't know s

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 27.09.2025 um 01:50:08 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > A corollary to "interception is a valid use case" is, webapps can > never be sure they have a secure channel. Therefore, webapps can only > handle low value data. Higher value data should be handled by hybrid > and native apps. They usually

Re: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50 lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

2025-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2025 08:06 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Wondering if others are noticing this? Also seems to be processing slower? Same here. Personally, I use a little one liner I call grepit: ps aux | grep $1 | grep -v grep The second grep gets rid of the redundant grep in the outpu

Re: certificate problem

2025-09-26 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Friday, September 26th, 2025 at 4:50 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 3:47 PM olivares33561 via users > users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > Dear kind fedora users,

Fw: Re: certificate problem

2025-09-26 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Forwarded Message --- From: Samuel Sieb Date: On Friday, September 26th, 2025 at 3:24 PM Subject: Re: certificate problem To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > On 9/26/25 12:47

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/26/25 10:35 AM, home user via users wrote: On 9/25/2025 10:59 PM, Tim wrote: [snip] Not for planning the install, but for my education and understanding: In the context of your last sentence, what file(s) are you considering to be the "kernel", and where (path) are they, given that you co

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread home user via users
On 9/26/2025 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 10:35 AM, home user via users wrote: On 9/25/2025 10:59 PM, Tim wrote: [snip] Not for planning the install, but for my education and understanding: In the context of your last sentence, what file(s) are you considering to be the "kernel", a

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/26/25 3:21 PM, home user via users wrote: On 9/26/2025 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 10:35 AM, home user via users wrote: On 9/25/2025 10:59 PM, Tim wrote: [snip] Not for planning the install, but for my education and understanding: In the context of your last sentence, what f

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread home user via users
On 9/26/2025 3:06 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/26/25 10:39 AM, home user via users wrote: What is the best time to check and (if appropriate) update BIOS: * before doing the bare-metal installation; or * after doing the bare-metal installation? It depends on how the update is done, but I woul

Re: Test i n g

2025-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 5:23 PM Barry wrote: > Please do not send test messages to the list. See . -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/26/25 10:39 AM, home user via users wrote: What is the best time to check and (if appropriate) update BIOS: * before doing the bare-metal installation; or * after doing the bare-metal installation? It depends on how the update is done, but I would recommend before if possible. -- __

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread home user via users
What is the best time to check and (if appropriate) update BIOS: * before doing the bare-metal installation; or * after doing the bare-metal installation? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-l

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread home user via users
On 9/25/2025 9:25 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 04:46:56PM -0600, home user via users wrote: (responding to Go Canes, Patrick, and George) On 9/24/2025 3:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 15:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM home

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread home user via users
. [snip] I would guess that 1 gig is still enough for systems for the next few years if you don't use nVidia, maybe double that size if you do.  And you have a whopping huge drive, so you don't really need to worry about it. I'll try to re-work the numbers for the no-nvidia case

Re: GUI solution to run apps over OpenVPN only

2025-09-26 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Patrick and Tim, for your help! Paul On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 7:03 AM Tim via users wrote: > > On Thu, 2025-09-25 at 21:16 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > > I am trying to find a way to run only specific applications (for > > example, a web browser) over an OpenVPN connection, while keeping th

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2025-09-26 at 23:58 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > I did have an even older ancient DOS box still in use in the garden > until a few years ago, it had rat poison in it.  The fan hole was the > right size to let them in, but not bigger animals. A honey trap? poc --

Re: messages in dnf update

2025-09-26 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 9/26/25 9:57 AM, Francis Montagnac via users wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:44:01 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: /usr/lib/sysusers.d/trousers.conf:1: Conflict with earlier configuration for user 'tss' in /usr/lib/sysusers.d/tpm2-tss.conf:2, ignoring line. According to "dnf provides"

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I've still got a 16 bit motherboard here, it's all but useless, it's > > just sitting on the pile of "what can I do with it?" things. Every now > > and then I'd try something on it for the sake of it. Most distros > > *require* 32 bit hardware, these days. You can't even start an > > in

Re: problems with konsole app

2025-09-26 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 9/25/25 3:56 PM, Barry wrote: On 25 Sep 2025, at 20:43, Robert McBroom via users wrote: The konsole app has stopped showing the window control bar for a particular user. Tried the configure menu in konsole, saw nothing there. Looked at .config/konsolerc but didn't see anything that wo

Re: messages in dnf update

2025-09-26 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:44:01 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: > /usr/lib/sysusers.d/trousers.conf:1: Conflict with earlier configuration > for user 'tss' in /usr/lib/sysusers.d/tpm2-tss.conf:2, ignoring line. According to "dnf provides", /usr/lib/sysusers.d/trousers.conf is not in any stan

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/25/25 9:59 PM, Tim via users wrote: I've still got a 16 bit motherboard here, it's all but useless, it's just sitting on the pile of "what can I do with it?" things. Every now and then I'd try something on it for the sake of it. Most distros *require* 32 bit hardware, these days. You can'

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-26 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:16:29 +0200 Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > What do you think of > It seems that there are some issues ! Yes. See below (and also: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message: Trim irrelevant material. ) > dnf list --ex

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-26 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
What do you think of It seems that there are some issues ! dnf list --extras Updating and loading repositories: Webmin Distribution Neutral 100% | 948.0 B/s | 3.1 KiB | 00m03s Visual Studio Code 100% | 1.8 KiB/s | 1.5 KiB | 00m01s vivaldi-snapshot 100% | 3.5 KiB/s | 3.0 KiB | 00m01s RPM Fusion for

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread home user via users
On 9/25/2025 9:05 AM, George N. White III wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:02 PM home user via users wrote: Questions: If I use BTRFS for /home (that's the default, right?), can I easily turn off * copy-on-write, * compression, * encryption, and * (maybe) data ded

Re: GUI solution to run apps over OpenVPN only

2025-09-25 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2025-09-25 at 21:16 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > I am trying to find a way to run only specific applications (for > example, a web browser) over an OpenVPN connection, while keeping the > rest of the system traffic outside the VPN Proxies would appear to be the simple way of doing that (e.g.

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I'll hazard a guess that your drive, and motherboard, mightn't have a >> 10 year lifespan. And even if fault-free, mightn't be useful in 10 >> years, either. home user: > old system: > first hard drive - 4 years; replacement - still going. > monitors (dual-monitor desktop) - one lasted 5(

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread home user via users
On 9/24/2025 11:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/24/25 6:02 PM, home user via users wrote: In an earlier thread ("questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/ repo/objects...)"), Will referred me to the Redhat website "https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/ html

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread home user via users
ing huge drive, so you don't really need to worry about it. I'll try to re-work the numbers for the no-nvidia case. With the numbers I have now, another interesting number: it takes 4 years (rounded) for the space use to double. Although the kernels (and ancillary files) size has i

Re: problems with konsole app

2025-09-25 Thread Barry
> On 25 Sep 2025, at 20:43, Robert McBroom via users > wrote: > > The konsole app has stopped showing the window control bar for a particular > user. Tried the configure menu in konsole, saw nothing there. Looked at > .config/konsolerc but didn't see anything that would apply to the window

Re: GUI solution to run apps over OpenVPN only

2025-09-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2025-09-25 at 21:16 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I am trying to find a way to run only specific applications (for > example, a web browser) over an OpenVPN connection, while keeping the > rest of the system traffic outside the VPN. My provider gives me .ovpn > configuration fil

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-25 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > Francis Montagnac wrote: > ... > > > Use for example either "rpm -qi" or "dnf list" (if you used dnf to > > dnf list --help > gives > ... > --extras List extras, that is packages installed on > the system that are not available in any known repository. > ... > > s

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 04:46:56PM -0600, home user via users wrote: (responding to Go Canes, Patrick, and George) On 9/24/2025 3:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 15:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM home user via users wrote: [not sure if this w

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-25 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:02 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Questions: > If I use BTRFS for /home (that's the default, right?), can I easily turn > off > * copy-on-write, > * compression, > * encryption, and > * (maybe) data deduplication > for /home, but still e

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-25 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Joe, Following your last message, I have the same configuration than yours Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : . IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd17:625c:f037:2:f894:cb4:e005:a83f Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : fd17:625c:f037:2:c431:9b88:

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/24/25 6:02 PM, home user via users wrote: In an earlier thread ("questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/ repo/objects...)"), Will referred me to the Redhat website "https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/ html-single/managing_file_systems/index#types-of-

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread home user via users
(responding to Go Canes, Patrick, and George) On 9/24/2025 3:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 15:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM home user via users wrote: [not sure if this was quoting someone without attribution, or other formatting] > the

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 15:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM home user via users > wrote: > [not sure if this was quoting someone without attribution, or other > formatting] > > > the "kernel" grows about 20% per year. > > I can't claim expertise or authority here, but i

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 12:49 -0600, home user via users wrote: > Wanting to keep 5 old "kernels", and wanting /boot to accommodate 10 > years of growth, /boot should be allotted > (1 + (growth rate as a percent / 100) ^ years) * starting size > = (1.2 ^ 10) * 800 MB > = about 5 GB. I'll haza

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread home user via users
In an earlier thread ("questions: file systems (was: /var/lib/flatpak/repo/objects...)"), Will referred me to the Redhat website "https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html-single/managing_file_systems/index#types-of-file-systems_overview-of-available-file-systems";.

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread home user via users
On 9/24/2025 4:42 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: On 24 Sep 2025 at 19:13, George N. White III wrote: On Wed, 2025-09-24 at 15:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM home user via users wrote: [not sure if this was quoting someone without attribution, or other f

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 24 Sep 2025 at 19:13, George N. White III wrote: From: "George N. White III" Date sent: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 19:13:46 -0300 Subject:Re: "bare metal" installation To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-24 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure that it is entirely relevant for the list. > I use oracle VM and Windows 7 > I cannot connect on internet from windows: unidentified connection is it Vbox Version 7.2.2 ? if so I had some newtork connection problems too. It seems Oracle introduced a n

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-24 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > Bridged adapter: cable connected > > all give: IP 169.254.168.63 > > The 169.254 address is an Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA). You > are missing a DHCP server somewhere. Or maybe you are missing a > component that allows access to the DHCP server, like dnsmasq. You are probably righ

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-24 Thread home user via users
(responding to both Go Canes and Samuel) On 9/20/2025 6:13 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 7:51 PM home user via users wrote: # lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS sda 8:00 1.8T 0 disk ├─sda1 8:10 600M 0 part /boot/efi ├─sda2 8:201G 0 par

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-23 Thread home user via users
On 9/20/25 10:09 PM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2025-09-20 at 13:05 -0600, home user via users wrote: I'm trying to determine what partitions, volumes, and sub-volumes my old desktop has. Your /etc/fstab file would be a useful thing to post, too. # cat /etc/fstab # # /etc/fstab # Created by anacon

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-23 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:51 AM Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > >> When it comes to external USB drive enclosures for a desktop PC, > >> I favour ones that come with their own power supply. I'd leave USB- > >> powered ones for battery-powered portable computing. > Agree, but I've used a powered U

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-22 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> When it comes to external USB drive enclosures for a desktop PC, >> I favour ones that come with their own power supply. I'd leave USB- >> powered ones for battery-powered portable computing. home user: > By that, you mean a blu-ray drive that's plugged into an AC outlet, right? Yes, th

Re: backup strategies/processes -- how do you do it!

2025-09-22 Thread Tim via users
Tim wrote: >>> Depending on the method, that would be more wearing on the drive. >> Though I wonder how significant it would be. Joe Average: > NVMe: Samsung 980 PRO > bought: 17.12.2021 > initial used in my Desktop until 28.07.2023, now in an second box with less > use > > secu

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-22 Thread home user via users
(responding to both Jon and Tim) On 9/20/2025 2:54 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 01:42:31PM -0600, home user via users wrote: On 9/20/2025 12:20 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 9/19/25 5:32 PM, home user via users wrote: > [snip] >> It's LG Electronics BP60NB10.  If I understand t

Re: Transmission?

2025-09-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 9/22/25 12:37 PM, Marco Moock wrote: Am 22.09.2025 um 12:11:10 Uhr schrieb ToddAndMargo via users: I would do a web search, but I am positive all I would get back is automotive transmissions. What the heck is "transmission" and can I delete it? It is the name of a BitTorrent client, als c

Re: Transmission?

2025-09-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 9/22/25 12:19 PM, Barry wrote: On 22 Sep 2025, at 20:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, This just came through on the updates: $ man transmission No manual entry for transmission Try using dnf or rpm to find the “info” for the package. Barry I keep forgetting about that c

Re: Transmission?

2025-09-22 Thread Marco Moock
Am 22.09.2025 um 12:11:10 Uhr schrieb ToddAndMargo via users: > I would do a web search, but I am positive all I would get back > is automotive transmissions. > > What the heck is "transmission" and can I delete it? It is the name of a BitTorrent client, als called transmission-qt and transmissi

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-22 Thread Go Canes
On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 12:49 PM home user via users wrote: > Uh-oh. > Here we go again. > another "overloaded" term in the IT profession? History, along with possible similar-but-not-quite-the-same terms in different environments. > I've been using the term "kernel" loosely and in a general way

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