On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 04:58:17PM -0500, Javier Perez wrote:
> I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the
> system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That is my understanding AFAIK, and
> that is why I think it is a good idea).
> My beef is given the NSA origin of this so
Allegedly, on or about 08 September 2013, g sent:
> imagine how big sputnik would have been if the Russians had to use a
> bunch of tubes and batteries :=D
Apparently a captured Russian aircraft was found to be full of valve
based equipment, to the bewilderment of those who caught it, wondering
i
On 05/09/13 23:41, Javier Perez wrote:
> After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
>
>
> Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code,
> I do not feel safe using it, privacy wise.
>
On 09/08/2013 06:51 AM, Tim wrote:
<>
I had my revenge on my unfriendly classmates at school with a Van de
Graaff generator. ;-) While they were all daisy-chained to each other,
standing on plastic boxes, with one on the end touching the generator,
as part of a practical demo, I grabbed the
Allegedly, on or about 07 September 2013, g sent:
> i know that feeling. similarly, i had a skin effect experience when i
> put my hand on a van de graaff generator at the Chicago Museum of
> Science and Industry.
I had my revenge on my unfriendly classmates at school with a Van de
Graaff generato
On 09/07/2013 04:30 PM, g wrote:
not really. it was what wikipedia found in search. i guess wikipedia does
not know all the general answers. :=)
Odd. I put Easter Offensive into the search bar and got exactly what I
was looking for. What search term did you use?
BTW, if you want to discus
On 09/07/2013 06:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/07/2013 03:25 PM, g wrote:
ok. i looked it up;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARVN
another fine example of how screwed up things can get with lack of good
communications.
Try looking here instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Offensive
be
On 09/07/2013 03:25 PM, g wrote:
ok. i looked it up;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARVN
another fine example of how screwed up things can get with lack of good
communications.
Try looking here instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Offensive
because it deals with the offensive in quest
On 09/07/2013 04:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
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No. The Easter Offensive was in '72, when the NVA poured across the
border with 150,000 men and more armor than the Germans sent to the
Kursk Salient. They ended up with a few positions south of the border,
and got back 50,000 men on foot. ARVN did
On 09/07/2013 02:00 PM, g wrote:
On 09/07/2013 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/07/2013 03:31 AM, g wrote:
"Tonkin Gulf" sounded familiar, so i ran a search.
you were there around the time of 'delimitation'. had it been 1964. it
would
not have been so "Boring!".
Steaming in and out of
On 09/07/2013 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/07/2013 03:31 AM, g wrote:
"Tonkin Gulf" sounded familiar, so i ran a search.
you were there around the time of 'delimitation'. had it been 1964. it
would
not have been so "Boring!".
Steaming in and out of a fog bank was boring. I suggest
On 09/07/2013 03:31 AM, g wrote:
"Tonkin Gulf" sounded familiar, so i ran a search.
you were there around the time of 'delimitation'. had it been 1964. it
would
not have been so "Boring!".
Steaming in and out of a fog bank was boring. I suggest that you read
up on the Easter Offensive,
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:15:32 -0500
g wrote:
> sure would be nice if fedoraproject would create a 'general' list like
> mozilla did. then reminiscing would not be a thread unraveler. ;=)
Well, to get back on topic then, I'll just point out
for the tin foil hat folks that the selinux libraries
are
On 09/07/2013 06:39 AM, Tim wrote:
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I can remember the lovely lilac corona you could get when you poked the
end of a screwdriver *near* the tripler in a CRT set. Tens of thousands
of volts going *almost* through you (more like around the outside of
you, rather than through your innards), bu
Allegedly, on or about 07 September 2013, g sent:
> for some reason or other, i decided to climb up on top of bridge.
> along side of ladder was cable for antenna. while climbing up, i kept
> getting a stinging on my ear, so i swatted at what i thought were
> mosquitos.
>
> after looking around ho
"hello, Joe". ;=)
On 09/07/2013 02:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/06/2013 10:41 PM, g wrote:
when i descended ladder, staying well clear of antenna wire, i looked down
at water and caught glimpses of some fishes with their bio luminescence.
another great sight.
I remember seeing that when I wa
On 09/07/2013 02:38 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
I tried some of this stuff while in the service and almost got
busted! Foil on a 5-ton hut did not work well!
Mike D.
Exactly! Proof that foil trick's been foiled.
Returning to the original discussion about foiling the NSA. If you try
to foil the
On 09/06/2013 10:41 PM, g wrote:
when i descended ladder, staying well clear of antenna wire, i looked down
at water and caught glimpses of some fishes with their bio luminescence.
another great sight.
I remember seeing that when I was in Tonkin Gulf, back in '72. Never
saw any St. Elmo's fir
On 09/06/2013 10:56 PM, Roger wrote:
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Nay! that dug trenches in the dirt roads and reduced mileage to 2km.ltr.
Side benefit though!. The radio antenna gathered static and charged the
2 layers like a capacitor...kids never touched the windows again, sat
like angels, hands on laps, spikey hair
I tried some of this stuff while in the service and almost got busted!
Foil on a 5-ton hut did not work well!
Mike D.
On 9/6/2013 9:25 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
Loved it! :)
As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs
to be orientend shiny-side in, which wou
Loved it! :)
As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs
> to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying
> on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented
> shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA from feeding your brain with
> undesir
On 09/07/2013 01:02 PM, g wrote:
On 09/06/2013 06:06 PM, Roger wrote:
<>
You can no longer fool me! I even wrapped the whole school bus in 2
layers of insulated foil but it did not work because I could not
completely ground the inner layer of foil and the earth peg pulled out
of the ground w
On 09/06/2013 06:06 PM, Roger wrote:
<>
You can no longer fool me! I even wrapped the whole school bus in 2
layers of insulated foil but it did not work because I could not
completely ground the inner layer of foil and the earth peg pulled out
of the ground while driving.
you needed to have
On 09/06/2013 12:35 PM, Fred Erickson wrote:
<>
I love it, this thread is starting to contain some useful information. :)
yeah. like what is fud. :=D
and that is not a question. i mean their opinion about what is fud. ;=)
--
peace out.
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
sl6.3
On 09/07/2013 03:35 AM, Fred Erickson wrote:
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:05:12 -0500
Steven Stern wrote:
On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer
needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA
from spying on y
On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs
> to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying
> on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented
> shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA fro
As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs
to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying
on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented
shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA from feeding your brain with
undesired signals. The two l
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:05:12 -0500
Steven Stern wrote:
> On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer
> > needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA
> > from spying on your brain waves. But the outside la
Quoting Marko Vojinovic :
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:58:03 +0200
Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote:
> My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very
> well have a backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate
> circumstances like an NSA-sponsored breach an a
Am 06.09.2013 00:35, schrieb Javier Perez:
> > I know it is a long shot and a lot of paranoid-think, after all, if I
> have to depend on SELinux to defend my
> system
> > from external breaches, I am F*ck up already.
>
> says who?
>
> I say so, based on my current knowledge of
Am 05.09.2013 23:58, schrieb Javier Perez:
> I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the
> system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That
> is my understanding AFAIK, and that is why I think it is a good idea)
well, so *why* do you refer to an article about encryption
On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote:
> My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very well have a
> backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate circumstances like an
> NSA-sponsored breach an allow unrestricted access to my system..
Every person contributing to free open sou
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:58:03 +0200
Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote:
>
> > My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very
> > well have a backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate
> > circumstances like an NSA-sponsored breach an allow unrestricted
>
Allegedly, on or about 06 September 2013, Andrew Haley sent:
> That's what they want you to do.
Haha, best retort yet.
--
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
George Orwell's '198
On 09/05/2013 09:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
> After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
>
>
> Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I
> do not feel safe using it, privacy wise
On 9/5/2013 1:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this
code, I do not feel safe using it, privacy wise.
With NSA's Utah Data Center opening this month, I don't think using
SElinux will seem a problem
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/201
Ah Ken's ACm lecture on Trusting trust.
yes good reading.
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> Quoting Rahul Sundaram :
>
> Hi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
>>
>> I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to
>>> the
>
Quoting Rahul Sundaram :
Hi
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the
system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That is my understanding AFAIK, and
that is why I think it is a good idea).
My beef is given the NS
Hi
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
> I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the
> system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That is my understanding AFAIK, and
> that is why I think it is a good idea).
> My beef is given the NSA origin of this soft
On 09/05/2013 01:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
What, if anything, does this have to do with SELinux? SELinux is all
about making sure malicious or badly-written code doe
Am 05.09.2013 22:41, schrieb Javier Perez:
> After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
>
> Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I do
> not feel safe using it, privacy wise.
I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the
system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That is my understanding AFAIK, and
that is why I think it is a good idea).
My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very well have a
backdoor to turn itself off under th
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On 09/05/2013 04:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
> After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
>
>
>
> Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:41:06 -0500, Javier Perez wrote:
> After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
>
>
> Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I
> do not feel safe using it,
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